How would the UK fare without Scotland?

IveSeenTheLight

ariba10 wrote: »

We might be able to change to European time and get an extra hour daylight in the evening instead of the morning.

It has been vetoed by Scotland in the past - Something to do with the cows not liking to get up in the dark.

I think it's more about school children going to school in the dark.

You'd like to think about their safety on cold dark mornings with bleary eyed drivers going about.

CLAPTON

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

I think it's more about school children going to school in the dark.

You'd like to think about their safety on cold dark mornings with bleary eyed drivers going about.

what was the result of the experiment made a few years ago?
were more scottish children injured or killed during the period of the experiment than before or after?

beecher2

CLAPTON wrote: »

what was the result of the experiment made a few years ago?
were more scottish children injured or killed during the period of the experiment than before or after?

It was over 40 years ago so not really comparable. It wouldn't get light here until 10am in the depths of winter - I would personally hate that as I'd be getting up 4 hours before daybreak.

I'm a morning person though so prefer daylight in the morning rather than evening. Would be good if work could be more flexible and we could change our hours of work according to the season.

Generali

beecher2 wrote: »

It was over 40 years ago so not really comparable. It wouldn't get light here until 10am in the depths of winter - I would personally hate that as I'd be getting up 4 hours before daybreak.

I'm a morning person though so prefer daylight in the morning rather than evening. Would be good if work could be more flexible and we could change our hours of work according to the season.

I'm not sure what happened in the last 40 years to make the study no longer comparable. Driverless cars and buses perhaps?

I think the reason Scots don't want the clocks to go to double summertime is because it's not very nice for them. FWIW, I think that's a perfectly good reason not to do it. It also gives the lie to the idea that England will always ride roughshod over Scotland.

mayonnaise

beecher2 wrote: »

It wouldn't get light here until 10am in the depths of winter

Sunrise in Glasgow in the depths of winter is not later than 8.48 am

http://uk.weather.com/climate/sunRiseSunSet/Glasgow+GLG+United+Kingdom+UKXX0061:1:UK?month=12

beecher2

mayonnaise wrote: »

Sunrise in Glasgow in the depths of winter is not later than 8.48 am

http://uk.weather.com/climate/sunRiseSunSet/Glasgow+GLG+United+Kingdom+UKXX0061:1:UK?month=12

I do apologise for being 12 minutes out.

DavidF

mayonnaise wrote: »

Sunrise in Glasgow in the depths of winter is not later than 8.48 am

http://uk.weather.com/climate/sunRiseSunSet/Glasgow+GLG+United+Kingdom+UKXX0061:1:UK?month=12

And Glasgow is by far not the most northern part of Scotland thus would not be effected by the sunrise issue as much as those parts of the country that lie further north. Or does Aberdeen and Inverness and the like not count ?

beecher2

Generali wrote: »

I'm not sure what happened in the last 40 years to make the study no longer comparable. Driverless cars and buses perhaps?

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Off the top of my head: more cars on the road, more pupils being driven to school, more pupils living outwith their catchment area, fewer SAHM meaning less time to walk children to school, fewer pupils cycling, more safety features on cars, changes to speeding regulations around schools, drink driving legislation which came out at the time.

CLAPTON

beecher2 wrote: »

Off the top of my head: more cars on the road, more pupils being driven to school, more pupils living outwith their catchment area, fewer SAHM meaning less time to walk children to school, fewer pupils cycling, more safety features on cars, changes to speeding regulations around schools, drink driving legislation which came out at the time.

I'm confused

do Scottish children not come home in the evening?

beecher2

CLAPTON wrote: »

I'm confused

do Scottish children not come home in the evening?

Yes, but are more likely now to be driven home than they were in the 60s. Pupils also have shorter lunch breaks in Scotland than they did in the 60s and 70s so on some days leave school between 2 and 3pm, depending on the authority.

My point is that life is very different now to it was 40 odd years ago.