TV licensing threats

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Kayak10 wrote: »

I'm not 100% certain but I understand they do have more powers.

The only power they have, beyond that of any private citizen, is to apply to the court, for a Search Warrant.

I'm not sure how it's worded but I think it's along the lines of its a police offence or at least the police can get involved

The only way the police can get involved, is if another offence (eg. assault) is committed by either party, or if a Search Warrant is being executed.

Bear in mind, LF evasion is a, non-arrestable, summary offence.

Different to any other debt to a company

TVL isn't a DCA.

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Kayak10 wrote: »

As Murhpy found out with his partner Your living in cloud cuckoo land if you believe that They WILL eventually catch up with you As they did me and it cost dear when they did :-(

No offence (pun intended), but the mistake you both made, was in interacting with them.

Kayak10

What I was trying to say is that evading tv licence is a criminal law as apposed to any other type of debt to company's come under Civil law and the police do NOT get involved in civil law
I'm sure someone will correct me as it seems certain folk take great pleasure in that Instead of sticking to the original post

Kayak10

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

No offence (pun intended), but the mistake you both made, was in interacting with them.

As far as I'm aware Apart from the doorstep visit Murphys partner did NOT interact with them That's how the next thing she knew was a letter from the court with the result of the case A Fine

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Kayak10 wrote: »

As far as I'm aware Apart from the doorstep visit Murphys partner did NOT interact with them

The doorstep visit is all it takes.

The vast majority of convictions, are the result of doorstep confessions.

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Kayak10 wrote: »

What I was trying to say is that evading TV licence is a criminal law as opposed to any other type of debt to company's come under Civil law and the police do NOT get involved in civil law

It is indeed a criminal offence (and not a debt at all), but it also a summary offence, for which there is no power of arrest.

It is also, unlike most other criminal offences, prosecuted by BBC/TVL, rather than the police/CPS.

As a result, the police don't get involved, unless some other offence occurs/is alleged, or to keep the peace, during the execution of a Search Warrant.

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I won't be quite as blunt as Linda_D, but she is essentially correct.

You were a victim of your own gullibility.

If you are going to buck the system (legally or not), the first rule is "know thine enemy".

Kayak10

The BIG problem Especially with Linda There are so many people that feel its a sport to evade the law
Let's get this straight for the FINAL time My thread was NEVER intended to end up completely diss fragmented And one thing that should be STOPPED is people being extremely RUDE
Despite I have frequently been ridiculed in this thread I have NEVER once been blatantly rude to the posters

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Kayak10

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

I won't be quite as blunt as Linda_D, but she is essentially correct.

You were a victim of your own gullibility.

I certainly WASNT gullible as I NEVER intended to NOT buy a licence

If you are going to buck the system (legally or not), the first rule is "know thine enemy".

That's all very well but when the enemy does some of the things TVL do it's not that easy And all those that are evading the licence is probably why they are so aggressive So those effectively innocent get the brunt

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Kayak10 wrote: »

That's all very well but when the enemy does some of the things TVL do it's not that easy

Hence knowing thine enemy.

Had you known what they (and indeed you) can and can't do, you would hopefully not have fallen for the "sign or else" bovine excrement they gave you.

And all those that are evading the licence is probably why they are so aggressive So those effectively innocent get the brunt

You cannot justify lying to and intimidating people, on the grounds that some people are breaking the law.

You cannot even justify, using it against those who are breaking the law.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

BTW. What do you mean by the phrase effectively innocent :huh: