University parking tickets worry

Kanye_West

Dee140157 wrote: »

Have you got a photo of the back of the image in post 8. That is the original we want to see to see if Popla is offered.

The back of the PCN is the first image on the imgur album on post 18 or: http://
i.imgur.com/CMKhsCr.jpg

Dee140157

Ah sorry. Missed that one. No mention of POPLA then.
Looks like a non compliant PCN in the first place.
Not quite got a handle on all this yet, but someone will be along (probably Coupon-Mad) with a whole plot of useful advice given this added information

Kanye_West

Dee140157 wrote: »

If NTK was 3 months later than windscreen notice then it was not compliant with the deadlines of POFA12, so keeper is not liable.

I beg your pardon. All the letter's titled "Re: Keeper Liability Notice" are the second letters I had received for each ticket. I had received a set before that titled "Re: Parking Charge - Notice to Keeper" in March so it was in the 3 month limit.

Sorry, this slipped my mind.

This is what the first Notice to Keeper letter looks like:
http://
imgur.com/O51pRi0

Dee140157

[url]Http://imgur.com/O51pRi0[/url]
No discount offered either.

I don't think the university hasn't quite got a handle on the BPA code of practice.

I think it would be well worth you having a read. It's quite enlightening
http://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_-_V4,_Feb_2014.pdf

I suspect a strongly worded appeal to the university pointing out all the flaws may be on the cards!

bazster

You've left your sister's name readable. Fix it!

bazster

Now, as for that notice:

According to my calculations they have missed the deadline for a POFA 2012-compliant NtK by more than a week, so there is no keeper liability and your sis is off scott free (on this one at least). So, that's an important appeal point for this one.

Dee140157

I will take the photos down I have linked to, but I can't see which one to take down. I can't see OPs sister's name! Help which post needs to go Bazter?

Kanye_West

Dee140157 wrote: »

No discount offered either.

Do they have to offer a discount?

Kanye_West

Dee140157 wrote: »

I will take the photos down I have linked to, but I can't see which one to take down. I can't see OPs sister's name! Help which post needs to go Bazter?

Haha! Didn't notice that. I edited it on Imgur so you can leave all the links up. Thanks though

bazster

Kanye_West wrote: »

Do they have to offer a discount?

According to the British Parking Association Code of Practice they do.

However, the point about the Notice to Keeper being out-of-date is even stronger because that is a failure to comply with the law. In order to establish keeper liability under POFA 2012 Schedule 4 the Notice to Keeper should've arrived after 28 days and within 56 days, counting from the day after the windscreen ticket was issued. They were comfortably late with the example you posted, so no keeper liability.

I wouldn't be surprised if the same applies to all the others too, because I get the impression that these notices have been carefully crafted by someone who actually read POFA 2012 Schedule 4 and completely failed to understand it!