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neverdespairgirl wrote: »My mother said something similar - that if your first child swallows a coin, you rush him to A & E. IF the second one does, you keep an eye on him in a vague way. If the third swallows it, you knock it off his pocket money.
First child drops dummy on floor - sterilise it
2nd child ditto - run it under the tap
3rd child - wipe on shirt, suck in own mouth, give back to child
4th child - retrieves own dummy from dog's bowlDo you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
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Usual thing for babies these days is not to have a pram as such at all. You have a chassis onto which you can fit the car seat (or seats in chewy's case). The the baby can go direct from car to buggy without having to be strapped and unstrapped and woken up etc. When they're a bit bigger they have a much cheaper more lightweight buggy and a bigger car seat that stays strapped in the car even when the child's not in it.
We didn't bother even with the chassis thang. Apart from once - when I took Kermie to IKEA to meet LIR, PN and Spirit, I've never taken the car seat out of the car at all. Then I took it with me because Spirit very kindly gave us a lift from the station, so I needed the seat for her car.
We have a car seat which stops in the car (and one for Isaac, too, even though he's 9, as you need them until you are about 18 now, I think), and a Maclaren's pushchair you can use from birth, and that's our lot. We also use a sling, quite a lot, as Kermie likes it and it's easier to move around with it than a pushchair. I've not bothered yet to take the pushchair to Kent, for example, and we didn't take it to Cornwall.
We also have a bouncy chair, which Kermie sits in at home.
Babies don't need thousands spending on them, I reckon. What makes babies expensive isn't their stuff unless you choose to make it expensive - what costs is the money you don't earn when they are born, the childcare you need later on, and the housing to make room for them.
The clothes Kermie wears are pretty much the same ones that Isaac wore at the same age, and most of those were also worn by me and my siblings, or by OH and his brother. The bright green babygro that lead to Kermie gaining his nickname was one OH found when clearing his parents' house out, and there are equally impressive aggressively-coloured late 1970s ones, too:
Impressive yellow and orange babygro with 1970s collar - a "vintage" original
Kermie in red late 1970s babygro with collar:
Isaac in the same babygro:
I've seen pics of both me and sister #2 wearing it as well.
This is, I think, the pushchair we have:
http://www.johnlewis.com/maclaren-quest-sport-2013-buggy-black-silver/p231855329...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
I think your lifestyle involves different methods of getting about the place from the one I had when mine were little. I spent a lot of time driving to somewhere and then getting out of the car and wheeling the baby around - often to walk from where I'd been able to park to where I was going - or getting out of the car and wanting to be able to carry the baby into somewhere where I was going to want to put him/her down to watch what was going on. So a seat that came in and out of the car and could also be used on wheels or carried over the arm was ideal. I think you only use your car for long journeys such as to your parents' place, don't you? If so I can quite see why your arrangements would be different from mine.
DS and DD wore second hand baby clothes from various sources, but none of mine. Mine were all second hand in 1969, and mostly predated the babygro era. They were given away after I grew out of them and worn by other people's children. Toys, on the other hand, were mostly kept and are still in my dad's house.
DD wore a lot of outfits that consisted of one item of DS's clothes plus something to indicate she was a girl - his red dungarees over a white shirt with little flowers on, or conversely his blue and white stripey shirt with purple dungarees over.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
I had a one in front of the other buggy for James and Josh but learnt very quickly that it would have been much better to have had a side by side. For Josh and youngest, we got a side by side which could be used from birth, very handy bearing in mind there is only 16 months between them. It was very lightweight, very easy to get around shops (apart from those with narrow doors) and could spin in a very tight circle and it didn't cost huge amounts of money..beggered if I could remember the make of it now though.
We bought new for James although the pram/buggy combo thing was from the previous season (apparently that was important enough to get it a reduction of approx half) and paid it off weekly before we picked it up (not on credit, it was put by and we gradually paid for it), for the carrycot, chassis and buggy element it was £150. The buggy element of it lasted for all 3 children and until youngest was 6 when it really was getting tatty....we had been offered a Major buggy for youngest but now ex hubby didn't want something that would mark him out as 'special'.
Our one in front of the other double buggy was second hand and cost about £50 I think, the side by side was less than £200 but more than £100 if I remember correctly (it wouldn't have been over £200 or even £180 as my budget head would never have allowed it), the equipment purchased for James was used for all 3 and the clothes passed down with obviously some new additions.
I have one babygro here that I gave to a friend when she had her daughter, it then went to her friend, then to another, then to me, then to another friend of mine, back to me, to my sister and finally back to me for youngest.
The swinging crib did all 3 boys and is still in my loft, as did all the pretty things to go on it/around it.
Everything we purchased were bargains or mispriced items (got the microwave steriliser for half the price as they had mislabelled it), I really couldn't see the point in going mental buying things that would only be used for a short amount of time.We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.0 -
James safely back at uni and settled in, I'm shattered.
Got the OT coming on Friday, I have finally bitten the bullet and asked for help, not easy and it doesn't sit very well with me, I much prefer my hide away and adapt things to having the intrusion but needs must and an OT report is needed to get an extra step outside the house as the very deep and high step is now making things difficult getting in and out of the house.We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.0 -
I saw a mum out running with her child in a push chair. She was doing really well.
I can see the advantage of having the child in a seat that you lift in and out of the car, all in one. But it must add to the weight. Don't parents get bad backs all the time?
My car has a foam thingy, but no spare. I did not even try the foam, as there was a hole the size of a 50p piece in the side of the tyre. The roof collapses back into the boot, and having a spare tyre would take up nearly all the rest of the space. Plus a foam thingy costs the manufacturers far less than a spare. Plus it's lighter, so helping the mpg figures. It's just a gigantic PITA if you have a problem! Fine until then, of course. No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
I'm feeling guilty about commenting on the cost of Chewie's buggy, now. All our kids went in the same coach built pram. Those were quite common then, and not wildly expensive, but I see that to get one now would cost £1500!
They are great in some ways. The big wheels mean they are easy to push. There's space for shopping underneath. And big brother can go on a pram seat on top if necessary. Plus it's a proper bed shape for baby. Hopeless for putting in the car, of course.
No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
So a seat that came in and out of the car and could also be used on wheels or carried over the arm was ideal. I think you only use your car for long journeys such as to your parents' place, don't you? If so I can quite see why your arrangements would be different from mine.
Yes - the only places Kermie's ever been in the car are home to Kent, Kent to home, home to Cornwall and vice versa, plus Kent to Rochester Castle last time we were there, and he went in the sling when we were wandering round the Castle's grounds.
Most people I think do that travel system thing you mentioned, with the car seat clipping into the base of the pushchair / pram thing, and it works well if you need to move the baby in and out of the car more often than we do. Our not-needing one is fairly specific to living in a densely-populated area well served by public transport. My best mate, for example, used that with her now 5 year old daughter and again with her infant son now.DS and DD wore second hand baby clothes from various sources, but none of mine. Mine were all second hand in 1969, and mostly predated the babygro era. They were given away after I grew out of them and worn by other people's children. Toys, on the other hand, were mostly kept and are still in my dad's house.
Most of the babygros aren't mine, although a few are, but they are mostly from my younger siblings or OH and his younger brother. I find babygros very useful, they hold everything together. Separate tops and trousers just fall down and ride up, babies don't really have a waist at all, or at least, mine don't!...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
I can see the advantage of having the child in a seat that you lift in and out of the car, all in one. But it must add to the weight. Don't parents get bad backs all the time?
It's only infant car seats that do that - the rear facing ones for little babies. The baby gets too big to fit in before it gets too heavy to carry.neverdespairgirl wrote: »I find babygros very useful, they hold everything together. Separate tops and trousers just fall down and ride up, babies don't really have a waist at all, or at least, mine don't!
I quite agree. As long as they were in nappies, mine spent as much time as possible in outfits that were (a) a bodysuit - ie thing that's basically a top but has poppers between the legs to keep it from riding up - with (b) dungarees on top. This holds everything together while giving a slightly more "dressed for the day rather than for sleep" look once the baby is at the learning to crawl stage.
Here are DS (3 years 10 months) and DD (11 months). She hasn't a clue what the thing is for, and isn't tall enough to see the ball anyway, but she's not going to be left out! (Resolution not brilliant. Sorry)
Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
Photo is lovely! No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0
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