Nice People 12: Nice in Nice

lostinrates

Yorkie1 wrote: »

I was watching the Educating the East End programme - I think they've tried to show a different sort of school culture this time round, with a predominantly female senior team. Will be interested to see how the rest of the series goes, but I enjoyed tonight's episode.

Even when teacher got something 'wrong' ( pastorally v education) he made effort to comfort pupil. ( nice) I think the format is a little flawed in that its a little savvy to the cameras. You don't get much !!!!!ing in the staff room kinda shot I guess?

lostinrates

silvercar wrote: »

Sounds like something I should save on the ipad for the flight home. What channel please? and what is the proper title?

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Channel four , um, educating the east end?

PasturesNew

Yeah, channel 4, Educating the East End
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/educating-the-east-end

Playground high jinks, inspirational lessons and life-changing friendships and events, from Frederick Bremer School in East London

So ... same as the other "Educating ...." programmes, but this time in the East End. Others were, I think, Educating Yorkshire, Educating Essex ... not sure if there were others.

silvercar

PasturesNew wrote: »

Yeah, channel 4, Educating the East End
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/educating-the-east-end



So ... same as the other "Educating ...." programmes, but this time in the East End. Others were, I think, Educating Yorkshire, Educating Essex ... not sure if there were others.

Not yet available on 4oD catch up

Ill try again in the morning.

fc123

Nikkster wrote: »

Thinking of you Spirit, have been a lot today x

...me too ...along with everyone else.


As I am in touch with my shallow side, I am now going to slob out and watch CBB on catch up.


Shame OH isn't nearer to you PN as he is great at odd jobs. The neighbours are going to miss him when we go.....but we get a lot of free premium booze in return.


His most recent help session was doing the skirting corners / mitres for their entire house as Mr Neighbour could only do the straight bits himself and they have now run out of refurb £££.

Nikkster

fc123 wrote: »

Shame OH isn't nearer to you PN as he is great at odd jobs.

Shame you guys aren't nearer here too!


(not just for the DIY though)

Nikkster

LydiaJ wrote: »

:T:T:T

Yes, must hold on to this feeling. And in the moments I can't, just focus on the next sticky tab.

PasturesNew

fc123 wrote: »

Shame OH isn't nearer to you PN as he is great at odd jobs.

He could have popped over to LIR's straight after - to check/secure her shelves

Doozergirl

LydiaJ wrote: »

Thoughts and prayers and hugs for Spirit.

Sue, glad to hear Josh was keeping an eye on you. Please look after yourself.



I suspect that actually most people start off by doing the job with somebody who knows how - dad, friend, etc. Then they pick up the basics. After that, if they discover that they have some aptitude and inclination in that direction, they try picking up further skills on their own. Only after they've done quite a lot either with assistance or in a situation where it doesn't really matter how good the job is, can they go on and start charging people for their skills.

PN is still at the stage where she posts in triumph when she's assembled flat pack furniture without left over pieces and without the end product being wonky. She can tell that her curtain pole fixings aren't up to the job, but she probably doesn't know that that's because it's a newbuild house with flimsy stud walls, or what kind of special fixings would be necessary to overcome the difficulty. I think that's quite a long way from being able to show up to somebody else's house to get paid for fixing whatever they've decided is too hard for them to do themselves.

The topic of conversation today at my local business owners soiree was about charging for your value, not your time. Admittedly, the £20-25 an hour man is clearly charging based on time, but some of that value he puts in his experience, like you say. You need a few curtain poles to fall down before you seek out the right fitting or several wonkies before you can hammer a whirlygig in straight.

We always tile the floors before fitting a kitchen. For little extra cost it means you can always remove appliances easily or even fit a new kitchen over it. Particularly useful with an expensive floor. When you pay for experience, you pay a bit more for all that person successes, accumulated mistakes and subsequent fixes. Or you end up DIYing and potentially paying more for your own mistakes.

Buying tools and setting up without experience means doing a job for not enough money and then ending up paying your customer more than you earned for your mistakes; a much greater risk than DIY and learning from your own mistakes.

lostinrates

Don't talk about shelves. There is a lot of touching wood going on here ATM.


The study is currently furnished with that plastic clic shelving people use in garages or garden sheds. ( charming, huh? ) and its buckling under the weight of books, books and more books.