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TBH, it would be madness not to. No repayments until you earn over 21k. 9% of income above that? 30 year repayment limit?chewmylegoff wrote: »Sorry to be on topic - but imagine the debt they will run up between them. A poisoned chalice in some ways- I wish people who have done that well could get the education they deserve and not come out the other side saddled with debt - not necessarily free, but it was manageable at £1,500 a year. Have been talking to our interns and grads this evening - they are doing better than most and it still isn't a pretty picture...
If I left school into today's environment, I'm not sure I would want to go to uni unless I had financial backing.
The maths says easy option. Borrow 50k for degree. Graduate. Earn the national average for 30 years (say 25k). Repayments are approx £350 a year, so over 30 years, 11k or so. 20%.
The student loans system is an unaffordable mess, & bet you a pound to a penny it won't be the same in 2015/16.It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0 -
Cliff Richard!!!!
OMG! !!!!!!!
Cliff, along with other high profile peeps, is on the elm house list. Been waiting for this one to break for a bit.You are surprised by the allegations, or just by how long they have taken to surface?
I have no idea whether the allegations are true, but in the present climate it seems rather too easy for people to make these allegations that are quite difficult to refute and very shaming.
Strangely, cliff is under investigation for someone making an allegation. Unsure if that is related exactly to elm house or not.
If elm house comes out properly, it has the potential to be more shocking than saville, but as big (potentially) as JFK being shot...
* feels left out *...First week in Sept is out for me - can't guarantee the inquest will be over by then. After that is fine. I have a cast iron rule about not doing school work on my day off, so whatever's going on at school won't affect my Thursdays. (My solicitor also has kids about the same age as mine and works part time, and her day off is Thursday too. She calls it "sanity Thursday", which appeals to me.)
Would love to meet Spirit and NDG.
(Would of course also love to see Nikkster again, but not at the expense of her thesis-writing time.)
On a related theme, it appears I will meet my first ever real life NP next week!It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0 -
Indeed, two and a half months.
Pomodoro timer may help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomodoro_Technique
Quite frankly, just making a really, really detailed list of what needs to be done may help. At least I find it helps. Plus I reward myself with a nice cup of Earl Grey at 25 minute intervals or something stronger, but only after crossing at least one item off the list.
For mine, I had a list that got longer and shorter and longer and shorter. There would be a single item like "write chapter 4" that would get replaced with several items describing the sections of chapter 4, then in turn each of those would turn into several small items that would gradually get deleted as they got done. It was such a wonderful feeling when the last item went.
Doozergirl wrote: »My question the other night. It's very bad.
Hugs DG. :grouphug:
For you and all concerned.You are surprised by the allegations, or just by how long they have taken to surface?
I have no idea whether the allegations are true, but in the present climate it seems rather too easy for people to make these allegations that are quite difficult to refute and very shaming.
Indeed. Innocent until proven guilty should apply to everyone - just ask Christopher Jefferies.
In a slightly different context (because not involving anyone under age or anything that happened decades earlier, and because the sex was admitted but the defence was consent), the defence barrister at the rape trial for which I was on the jury told us all that she advises her sons to protect themselves against false allegations by obtaining consent in writing before sleeping with anyone.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
lemonjelly wrote: »Cliff, along with other high profile peeps, is on the elm house list. Been waiting for this one to break for a bit.
Strangely, cliff is under investigation for someone making an allegation. Unsure if that is related exactly to elm house or not.
If elm house comes out properly, it has the potential to be more shocking than saville, but as big (potentially) as JFK being shot...
Indeed. And he may be guilty, and if he is I hope they dig up everything that needs digging up. But I don't think that list is sufficient evidence to start taking it for granted that everybody on it is actually guilty without waiting for the necessary investigations to be properly completed.lemonjelly wrote: »* feels left out *...
Jelly, my friend, you should know by now that I'm longing to meet you. I've said so before. But you work on Thursdays, so I was assuming that your attendance at a possible Thursday lunch at lir's was too unlikely to be worth getting my hopes up. Otherwise I would already have posted a plea for it to be rebranded as being for ladies and gentlemen who lunch.lemonjelly wrote: »On a related theme, it appears I will meet my first ever real life NP next week!
I thought you'd met DG? Or is it only DB that you've met?
Are you going to tell us whom you're meeting next week, or is it a secret?Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
I've never tried painting outdoor furniture. The closest i have got is buying teak oil and not getting round to using it. Can you just paint weathered hardwood like indoor softwood? Simple as that?
No idea... I just thought: you sand it down, you paint it.
Although, in my world, it'll be: You try to sand it down, realise it's not easy .... use various sandpapers .... get despondent... kick it. Walk away. Realise you can't put it off as it's not going away .... do a bit more sandpapering .... stare at it forlornly. Get the paint out and paint it on, realise it looks a different colour now, hate the way it looks ... flies land on it, then a breeze will whip up and bits will stick to it .... stare at it despondently wondering why nothing ever goes right .... finish in a half hearted way .... then live, forlornly, with the poor results for years, wishing you weren't such a tw4t at everything that the telly programmes make out is easy
Repeat every 5 years..... or not.0 -
Sand it down? Pffft!
It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0 -
lemonjelly wrote: »TBH, it would be madness not to. No repayments until you earn over 21k. 9% of income above that? 30 year repayment limit?
The maths says easy option. Borrow 50k for degree. Graduate. Earn the national average for 30 years (say 25k). Repayments are approx £350 a year, so over 30 years, 11k or so. 20%.
The student loans system is an unaffordable mess, & bet you a pound to a penny it won't be the same in 2015/16.
I think it's rubbish. I remember going to a conference in the 90s where they were talking about how the UK was going to adopt the US notion of HE being a "good" not a "right".
Twice as many people to do degrees and not paid for by Joe Public's generous tax contributions. Students to borrow and repay. Employers off the hook for training up their own staff, just picking from a catalogue of people who've skilled up at their own expense. Then treating them rubbish because there's a another graduate queuing up behind them to take the same treatment
Good polytechnics turned into mediocre universities. Vocational HE courses being replaced with mini-degrees. Everybody picking degrees that look trendy instead of useful, and employers focussing on which university awarded them just like they do in the US. Then having to do second degrees that actually mean something. Higher Education helping to massage the unemployment figures. I remember the days when simply having a degree was like passing a driving test. If you asked where they got it they assumed there was something weird about the questioner.
Yuk!
Actually this is too serious for this thread.
Good luck with the thesis, Nikkster. If you can keep your back to the wall, nose to the grindstone, shoulder to the wheel like everybody says you could have a second career as a contortionist, or furniture mover in these cramped complex houses everybody's been posting in the last few days!There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker0 -
lemonjelly wrote: »Sand it down? Pffft!
Only going by what the current owner said.... it's been up the side of a shed, outdoors/exposed for some time.
Maybe a pressure washer/steam cleaner would do just as good... but I've not got either.0 -
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Agreed. Some of the stuff I've seen/read is worrying though. & the list is full of many dubious characters.Indeed. And he may be guilty, and if he is I hope they dig up everything that needs digging up. But I don't think that list is sufficient evidence to start taking it for granted that everybody on it is actually guilty without waiting for the necessary investigations to be properly completed.
Annual leave?;):DJelly, my friend, you should know by now that I'm longing to meet you. I've said so before. But you work on Thursdays, so I was assuming that your attendance at a possible Thursday lunch at lir's was too unlikely to be worth getting my hopes up. Otherwise I would already have posted a plea for it to be rebranded as being for ladies and gentlemen who lunch.
I'll be pretty unavailable until October I reckon. & very likely weekends only between now & christmas. Enrolment will mean 12 hour days, 4 days a week for 3-4 weeks. Then there is the recovery period!
Only DB to date. But I'm going for the full Doozer set!:cool:I thought you'd met DG? Or is it only DB that you've met?
Are you going to tell us whom you're meeting next week, or is it a secret?
Might not get chance to have my haircut prior to my inaugural NP meet.It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0
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