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  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,229 Forumite
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    edited 26 July 2014 at 3:52PM
    zagubov wrote: »
    So, as deadly as anthrax, except a bit slower and the first symptom isn't usually death.

    I'm teaching this next year.

    There's a bit at the start of Dorothy Crawford's Deadly Companions about how we narrowly missed getting thoroughly battered by SARS back in 2003. Very scary stuff.

    The 3 week incubation period is quite scary in terms of it not being 'self limiting' - I wonder what the computer models at the CDC say.

    Edit: Perhaps reading should start with 'World War Z'?
    I think....
  • GDB2222
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    How easy is it to isolate an outbreak of Ebola? Should we be helping, out of self-interest if for no other reason? There were reports this morning that the outbreak had reached the capital city, but these are now being played down.




    Er, Ebola?

    No one really knows how to contain a outbreak of Ebola. The other ones died out for no apparent reason. But the politicians are reassuring us so I am sure it will all be okay... ohshitwe'reallgoingtodie... no reason to panic.

    From TomTerm in March!
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  • GDB2222
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    At the present rate of progression of the Ebola, I reckon we have around four months left. The one saving grace is that I therefore don't have to complete my tax return, after all! :j:j:j
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    edited 26 July 2014 at 4:23PM
    michaels wrote: »
    The 3 week incubation period is quite scary in terms of it not being 'self limiting' - I wonder what the computer models at the CDC say.

    The only known way to stop an ebola outbreak is to quarantine the population and let it burn itself out.

    Which in practical terms means 30% to 90% of people that get exposed in the quarantine zone die, depending on the strain.

    In Africa, with poor medical care, poor hygiene, and poor information campaigns, the percentage of people that get exposed in the quarantine zone is high.

    It's one of the ways ebola has previously remained relatively well contained, small communities in remote areas have almost all died before they can spread the virus.

    In developed countries, despite an initial outbreak probably spreading more quickly due to better transport links, once it was diagnosed and preventative measures implemented, then with better care, hygiene and information available, the infection rate as a percentage of the population should in theory ultimately be much lower .....

    But the mortality rate amongst those who do get infected would remain just as high, and due to the faster initial spread of the disease, that could be a lot of people.

    That theory has never been tested though.... Although in this instance it just might.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

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  • GDB2222
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    Hygena Harriette Double Bed Frame - Black.
    227/4487

    PN, I just saw this on HUKD at £185, including drawers. Would that be any good to you?
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  • GDB2222
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    The only known way to stop an ebola outbreak is to quarantine the population and let it burn itself out.

    Which in practical terms means 60% to 90% of people that get exposed in the quarantine zone die.

    In Africa, with poor medical care, poor hygiene, and poor information campaigns, the percentage of people that get exposed in the quarantine zone is high.

    It's one of the ways ebola has previously remained relatively well contained, small communities in remote areas have almost all died before they can spread the virus.

    In developed countries, despite an initial outbreak probably spreading more quickly due to better transport links, once it was diagnosed and preventative measures implemented, then with better care, hygiene and information available, the infection rate as a percentage of the population should in theory ultimately be much lower .....

    But the mortality rate amongst those who do get infected would remain just as high, and due to the faster initial spread of the disease, that could be a lot of people.

    That theory has never been tested though.... Although in this instance it just might.

    So, I do need to complete my tax return, after all?

    :(
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    So, I do need to complete my tax return, after all?

    :(

    Bummer....
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  • michaels
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    In developed countries, despite an initial outbreak probably spreading more quickly due to better transport links, once it was diagnosed and preventative measures implemented, then with better care, hygiene and information available, the infection rate as a percentage of the population should in theory ultimately be much lower .....

    But the mortality rate amongst those who do get infected would remain just as high, and due to the faster initial spread of the disease, that could be a lot of people.

    That theory has never been tested though.... Although in this instance it just might.

    Of course with the health service collapsing, potential supply chain difficulties and the resulting panic I would have said all bets might be off....
    I think....
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    michaels wrote: »
    Of course with the health service collapsing, potential supply chain difficulties and the resulting panic I would have said all bets might be off....

    Well yes, that was kind of the point of the other thread.

    Would developed nations ultimately cope better or worse?

    How much resilience could be built into the systems within a short period of time to then cope with a 30-90 day quarantine situation across the country?

    Etc...
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • michaels
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    Well yes, that was kind of the point of the other thread.

    Would developed nations ultimately cope better or worse?

    How much resilience could be built into the systems within a short period of time to then cope with a 30-90 day quarantine situation across the country?

    Etc...

    Might be time to go long latex gloves and antibacterial sprays and soaps.....
    I think....
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