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What are my rights if I want to return car to dealer?

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  • arcon5
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    The law covers you for faults for an unstated period of time - 6 month thing is nothing more than who the burden of proof is on.

    The law also states goods cannt be rejected if it would be unreasonable to do so. So you can't say 'the car was advertised as having 5mm tread and only has 4.9mm'.

    Certain newish members really need to stop giving advice
  • nobbysn*ts
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    arcon5 wrote: »
    The law covers you for faults for an unstated period of time - 6 month thing is nothing more than who the burden of proof is on.

    The law also states goods cannt be rejected if it would be unreasonable to do so. So you can't say 'the car was advertised as having 5mm tread and only has 4.9mm'.

    Certain newish members really need to stop giving advice

    So do certain other traders, on a 1 day old car. Still, solidarity eh?
  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,611 Forumite
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    nobbysn*ts wrote: »

    As an ex trader, you seem very keen to try to avoid the op getting independent advice? No reason for that is there?

    Because the question the O/P asked was what do they need to do relating to get the car fixed, being some 3 hours away.

    You then introduced this "demand a refund" notion and "ring trading standards immediately to get them to enforce it". All i've done is correct you - which in fairness is like shooting fish in a barrel. :D

    Why AGAIN are you trying to undermine my posts by implying yet again i am / was some sort of shady motor trader? Why cant you simply provide the EVIDENCE of what you're saying, rather than trying to undermine me?
    nobbysn*ts wrote: »

    Do you have a reference to a law stating yours is the only opinion they can hold, no consumer advice organisation can be contacted until there is proof you can't argue with.

    Never said that. You will note that pretty much every other poster is saying what i'm saying. You will note from other threads, where relevant i have advised posters to contact citizens advice before they proceed down a particular route, if relevant.

    IF that becomes an issue here, then yes, by all means get legal advice, but really the issue here is about who pays for a fault when the car is 3 hours from the seller?

    Please show us all where in law it says you can reject a car for any reason, to support what you said?
    nobbysn*ts wrote: »

    Which you would argue with regardless no doubt. Still, keep up the trader stance, the op can make a phone call, or take your word as a car trader. Their choice.

    Its not a "trader stance". As per everyone else, its common sense.

    Again why do you have to resort to undermining people, rather than back up what you are saying with FACT?
  • motorguy
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    arcon5 wrote: »

    Certain newish members really need to stop giving advice

    Clearly we dont want to be pointing the finger directly, but joined Aug 13 perchance?? ;)
  • motorguy
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    nobbysn*ts wrote: »
    So do certain other traders, on a 1 day old car. Still, solidarity eh?

    Wrong again.

    Its not a one day old car. Its a used car that the O/P has had for a day.

    Very different.

    Its not solidarity by the way, its sharing the correct viewpoint.
  • motorguy
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    nobbysn*ts wrote: »
    So do certain other traders, on a 1 day old car. Still, solidarity eh?

    Again, why do your posts *have* to try to undermine people - "oh you're a trader therefore your opinion cant be trusted'

    Thats clearly not why we are taking the time to post.

    If i was a doctor and offering advice on illness, that would be a great thing.

    If i was a solicitor and offering free legal advice on a forum, that would be great.

    But you seem to be implying we cant be objective if we are / were associated with the motor trade? Its not like its some society like the freemasons - we dont have a funny handshake and vow to look after each others interests.. :rotfl:
  • nobbysn*ts
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    So when the op asks 'Where do I stand if I wish to return the vehicle' it should be brushed off will traders screaming 'no chance'. 'never happen, let them have your money, it's an old car, you were just unlucky by owning it for a day', and desperate to rubbish anyone saying take other independent advice, you think that makes used car traders look more or less creditable?
  • motorguy
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    nobbysn*ts wrote: »
    So when the op asks 'Where do I stand if I wish to return the vehicle' it should be brushed off will traders screaming 'no chance'. 'never happen, let them have your money, it's an old car, you were just unlucky by owning it for a day', and desperate to rubbish anyone saying take other independent advice, you think that makes used car traders look more or less creditable?

    In terms of getting the faults repaired, the seller must be given the opportunity to inspect, and i would fully expect the seller to rectify the intercooler, cd player problem and rear wiper problem. I've said that already and so have others

    It is unreasonable to expect the seller just to write a cheque to pay for the O/P's mechanic to pay for repairs that the O/Ps mechanic says needs done.

    The seller has offered to pay for the intercooler which is where the biggest chunk of expense is coming from. I think thats fairly reasonable if the O/P isnt prepared to drive the car back to let his people have a look.

    I would have thought it reasonable that, if the O/P gets the car back there, the seller provides a courtesy car for a couple of days until the repairs are done - or sends someone to meet the O/P half way might be a compromise.

    The only view being "rubbished" (actually just questioned) is the one that suggests the O/P is entitled to a full refund.

    Again, if you can enlighten us by showing us "the law" that says the O/P has the absolute right to a full unquestioned refund on demand, then great.

    However you seem to be dancing around a lot, but not actually delivering on that. Whats the phrase - generating an awful lot of heat, but not much light? ;)
  • motorguy
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    nobbysn*ts wrote: »
    So when the op asks 'Where do I stand if I wish to return the vehicle' it should be brushed off will traders screaming 'no chance'. 'never happen, let them have your money, it's an old car, you were just unlucky by owning it for a day', and desperate to rubbish anyone saying take other independent advice, you think that makes used car traders look more or less creditable?

    Whats with this extreme viewpoint you always take?

    No one - trader, ex-trader or otherwise said any of this?
  • nobbysn*ts
    nobbysn*ts Posts: 1,176 Forumite
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    I don't really mind what the op does. CAB, trading standards, they'll do something, they'll do nothing, they might agree with the op, or agree with you, who knows. It's the cost of a phone call. You seem desperate they don't make the call. The op can read this thread, and decide themselves. I don't feel the need to convince them one way or another. You obviously do feel the need.
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