Sharing/conflict resolution at nursery school?

Person_one

Nicki wrote: »

How very liberal of you! Are there any other subjects which schools shouldn't be allowed to teach or cover in your opinion? Sex education perhaps? Or politics?

If sex education had a practical aspect that the children were expected to take part in at school then it might be an accurate comparison!

lostinrates

Person_one wrote: »

If sex education had a practical aspect that the children were expected to take part in at school then it might be an accurate comparison!

We put condoms on fruit and veg at school. Lots of them.

Nicki

notanewuser wrote: »

Don't imply that wanting a Welsh medium school is unreasonable. We live in Wales!

I haven't said that other schools have the religious component - they must have some, such is the current law - but as i'm not interested in sending DD to any of them for other reasons, it's a moot point.

Don't misrepresent what was said. I didn't imply that choosing a welsh medium school was unreasonable nor do I think this.

What I said was that if you choose a welsh medium school, which by definition has a "welsh chapel" ethos as well as teaching in the welsh language (because jane pig described these schools as having that whole culture) then you have to expect that the religion is part and parcel. If you don't want that ethos, then you go elsewhere. If you have ruled other schools out for other reasons then that is your free choice. None of us really get to choose a state school which is perfect for our children. We rank the issues in order of importance to us and pick the one which gets most of the most important issues right usually. Or home school.

Person_one

lostinrates wrote: »

We put condoms on fruit and veg at school. Lots of them.

You didn't partner up and practice the reverse cowgirl though, did you? :rotfl:

Its such a clear and obvious difference, I can't comprehend how anybody could fail to see it.

notanewuser

lostinrates wrote: »

We put condoms on fruit and veg at school. Lots of them.

3 times a day?

And not at 3 years old, I would hope!

Nicki

notanewuser wrote: »

Again, you're confusing education and instruction. LEARNING about religion is fine, within RE lessons. LEARNING about sex is fine, as part of PHSE/Sex education lessons. Expecting children to PARTICIPATE in religious or sexual activities throughout the day is not!

Do you really not see the difference?

No because no school demands that children participate. All schools by law, even the one you are considering, allow parents to withdraw their children from the participatory element. You don't want to do that however because you don't want your child to feel excluded. Instead you want to forbid all children to participate.

Do you really not see this?

Person_one

Nicki wrote: »

No because no school demands that children participate. All schools by law, even the one you are considering, allow parents to withdraw their children from the participatory element. You don't want to do that however because you don't want your child to feel excluded. Instead you want to forbid all children to participate.

Do you really not see this?

Only at school, they can participate in religious activities all they want outside of school hours.

*max*

Nicki wrote: »

How very liberal of you! Are there any other subjects which schools shouldn't be allowed to teach or cover in your opinion? Sex education perhaps? Or politics?

Any subject that teaches a belief system as fact.

School can and should teach about all religions - their philosophies, their history. The study of religions plays an important part in understanding human history, philosophy, politics and even psychology.

That is completely different to teaching about the beliefs of a single religion as if they were facts. It's the difference between teaching children WHY some people pray and teaching them that they SHOULD pray, for example.

lostinrates

Person_one wrote: »

You didn't partner up and practice the reverse cowgirl though, did you? :rotfl:

Its such a clear and obvious difference, I can't comprehend how anybody could fail to see it.

There were no boys, and tbf, lesbian sex was covered less well. But there is not one girl at my school who cannot get a condom on in the dark without getting her fingernails or teeth in it I bet. Or fell for 'its too big'.

Still. Never met an aubergine in real life either.

moomoomama27

notanewuser wrote: »

I'm very well aware what my choices are in relation to this school, thanks, and that if we decide down the line that it isn't the right place for DD (whether we remove her from religious practices or not), we can homeschool.

What are the other alternatives?

There are no welsh schools that don't have any religious instruction.

If there are plenty, as you say, I'll expect a nice full list in response. Off you go then.

No my dear, that is your job as a parent to find out which school fits your odd ideals!

No wonder you find it hard to fit in with that attitude, all I can do is sit back and chuckle at the unrealistic views, and feel. Dry sorry for any child being raised in such a stifling and rigid way doesn't make for a happy childhood when there is always conflict.