ebay unpaid item case opened against me

prowla

jpsartre wrote: »

Not answering a question and refusing to pay for a won item are two different kinds of bad IMO.

I didn't say I'm refusing to pay; I said I'm not paying without receiving a reply.

jpsartre

prowla wrote: »

I didn't say I'm refusing to pay; I said I'm not paying without receiving a reply.

And since one apparently isn't forthcoming that leaves your refusal to pay. As others have said, you're inventing your own T&C after the fact.

usefulmale

prowla wrote: »

Would you give your money to someone who won't reply to your messages?

Why would you say "hopefully a strike"? Is it your money which is involved?

I've repeated that I think the seller may not be reading their messages, and that I will determine that before proceeding.

One strike in 1000+ transactions is no big thing.

The seller HAS replied via the unpaid item case.

The ebay t&c's are not built around your wants or needs prowla.

Why do you care if the seller is reading messages? Your money is safe if you pay via paypal, so whats your problem? Your REAL problem?

alykatz

Cutting to the chase , its simple,
1, Question asked,no reply[bad seller]

2, at least 2 days later npb case opened[ seller may have npbs set to open automatically]

3 Buyer either pays or doesnt[ If it were me i would take the no reply as a no answer as i had already bid and won and pay, As some one else already said i hate leaving items unpaid.]

4, If buyer does not pay an npb strike will be awarded.
Buyer can try to get the npb removed, but that is a remote possibility.


All the rest of the malarky ive read on here is getting quite silly now.
Yes the buyer should have asked before bidding that is after all only only good manners.
Yes after all the seller should have responded that is only good manners.
But as has been said before the seller may be fed up with buyer in their eyes trying to alter the t&cs after winning.

The fact its a new account does not mean the seller is new to ebay.

Gleeful

We are outside of 48 hours now so I believe seller can close the UPI anyway

alykatz

Gleeful wrote: »

We are outside of 48 hours now so I believe seller can close the UPI anyway

I thought it was still after 4 days you could close the case not 2?

SeduLOUs

Prowla. The agreement/contract is formed at the point you bid. It says this clearly on the page that you bid on.

By submitting your bid, you'll be contractually committing to buy this item from the seller if you are the winning bidder.

It doesn't mean you are committing to buy based on whatever convenient terms you decide to make up after the auction has ended.

Yes, parties CAN mutually agree to amend terms after the end of the sale, perhaps if an item gets damaged in the meantime, but there is absolutely NO obligation to do so. The seller laid out his terms, you agreed to them and should stick to them.

You cannot force a seller to renegotiate when the contract has already been 'signed' by you bidding.

Yes the seller could have replied and it would have been POLITE to do so - he doesn't have to though. But you should pay, because it is your LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION to do so.

It's already been quoted, but here is some more stuff from the User Agreement.

When you bid on or buy an item, you're accepting the seller's terms as set out in their listing. You're entitled to expect that the seller will do what they've said with regards to postage, payments and returns.

Not Allowed: Demanding a change to the postage method or delivery location, other than those specified in the listing

I'm not posting anymore because you clearly just don't get it.

I'd also love Martin to read this thread too. I'm sure he will agree that breaching your terms of a contract in an attempt to force a seller to renegotiate AFTER you have shaken hands is not reasonable behaviour.

RainbowDrops

HILOLIOUS THREAD! :rotfl:

Bravo to all the people with nothing better to do on a Saturday night than have circular arguments into the wee hours.

Heroic._party_

Goldiegirl

Parity wrote: »

IMHO the OP is a true MSE.

In my time on this forum I've seen people trying to justify their ludicrous, bizarre and unethical behaviour by saying they are 'being MSE'


To be called a true MSE is not always a compliment, in my mind.

SeduLOUs

Parity wrote: »

IMHO the OP is a true MSE.

I have to agree. OP certainly won't be paying for or receiving this item. And after the non-payment strike will not be able to buy much else on eBay. Very MSE!