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The rise of Extremism in Economically tough times

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  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    Sampong wrote: »
    But judging from the comments from politicians this morning, they are showing that they still don't understand why people voted for UKIP - blaming it on a protest vote type of scenario. If they don't wake up they could be in for a hefty shock.

    Well as a Londoner I have to tell you that politicians aren't the only ones having trouble understanding why people are voting UKIP - maybe we are living in a bubble here in the metropolis but I can honestly say we Londoners have no idea what the !!!! is wrong with the rest of you and what exactly it is you are moaning about? What it is you even want, do you even know?
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    wymondham wrote: »
    I don't think I'm any different from any other voter, so maybe this is an insight to the main parties about what happened last night?

    Well you're different from London voters, why do you think that is?
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    setmefree2 wrote: »
    Well as a Londoner I have to tell you that politicians aren't the only ones having trouble understanding why people are voting UKIP - maybe we are living in a bubble here in the metropolis but I can honestly say we Londoners have no idea what the !!!! is wrong with the rest of you and what exactly it is you are moaning about? What it is you even want, do you even know?
    How about not wanting cheap labour forcing down wages in the construction industry and an influx of people forcing up housing costs?
  • globalds
    globalds Posts: 9,431 Forumite
    setmefree2 wrote: »
    Well as a Londoner I have to tell you that politicians aren't the only ones having trouble understanding why people are voting UKIP - maybe we are living in a bubble here in the metropolis but I can honestly say we Londoners have no idea what the !!!! is wrong with the rest of you and what exactly it is you are moaning about? What it is you even want, do you even know?


    So working off the "London Logic " ..We should have voted labour ?
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Bantex wrote: »
    It is not about kicking out ladders, it is about doing what is best for the UK.

    What is best for the UK is staying in the EU, allowing UK citizens the full rights and privileges to live, work and travel throughout Europe as they please.

    Allowing unrestricted trade and free markets in goods, services and people, and enabling the UK to have what is currently the strongest economic growth of any major economy.
    Many immigrants are good for the country, some are not and we should be in a position to chose which enter.

    When we are already short of immigrants, short of young breeding age people, and have an immigration system that works well with little cost to administer, why replace it with a cumbersome, bureaucratic, politically charged and expensive to run system that will be prone to endless meddling and tinkering by politicians?

    Something like 99% of current immigrants are good for the country.

    Replacing the current system with one that requires badly needed people to jump through hoops to get here is pointless, and amounts to throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

    If anything we need more EU immigrants, and to make it easier for young people to move here, not harder.
    Why is that such a difficult concept?

    See above.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Bantex wrote: »
    How about not wanting cheap labour forcing down wages in the construction industry and an influx of people forcing up housing costs?

    So you want to cure the housing shortage by creating an artificial shortage of labour.....

    Deeply illogical.:rotfl:
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    wymondham wrote: »
    At least these are now exciting times politically!

    Seriously is that what passes as excitement in Wymondham. (I'm guessing that's in Norfolk?)
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    What is best for the UK is staying in the EU, allowing UK citizens the full rights and privileges to live, work and travel throughout Europe as they please.

    Allowing unrestricted trade and free markets in goods, services and people, and enabling the UK to have what is currently the strongest economic growth of any major economy.



    When we are already short of immigrants, short of young breeding age people, and have an immigration system that works well with little cost to administer, why replace it with a cumbersome, bureaucratic, politically charged and expensive to run system that will be prone to endless meddling and tinkering by politicians?

    Something like 99% of current immigrants are good for the country.

    Replacing the current system with one that requires badly needed people to jump through hoops to get here is pointless, and amounts to throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

    If anything we need more EU immigrants, and to make it easier for young people to move here, not harder.



    See above.
    Do you have any data to support that 99% figure?
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Bantex wrote: »
    Do you have any data to support that 99% figure?

    Do you have any data to support any other figure?
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    Do you have any data to support any other figure?
    That'll be a no then.
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