advice suspected dealer.

tea_lover

Oh well if your sister did it it must be true of the entire population then. Can't argue with that kind of well-argued logic.

thorsoak

mrsHall2b wrote: »

most users couldnt deal because they would never make their money back, my sister bought a bit to deal, smoked it herself and realised actually if your going to deal you cant smoke your profits...

...this explains your attitude You and your family ARE part of the problem:(

Whilst I cannot condemn smokers, I do condemn the dealers who sit beside playgrounds/skateparks and the like where young children and teenagers congregate.

Starting on weed is one thing...but leading on to other things that are more harmful, its a wicked downward spiral.

browneyedbazzi

mrsHall2b wrote: »

cannabis is smoked in its original form unlike heroin and cocaine

If you know so much about drugs and drug use than surely you know that a lot of cannabis is laced with other chemicals in order to intensify its effects and also that most cannabis sold and smoked in this country is not grown in the ground but hydroponically - partly to conceal grow operations but also because that makes it stronger. Its hardly the 'natural' high it used to be.

If you think cannabis does no harm then you are deluded - it is banned for a reason.

As for the question of 'what does it have to do with you if it doesn't directly impact on you?' - that's just plain ignorant. If you saw someone stealing a car or beating up a stranger would you report it? Or are you happy to stand by and allow crime to go on so long as it doesn't directly impact on you? Would you want others to come forward and offer information to the police if you were the victim of crime, or would it be ok with you for them to turn a blind eye because it didn't directly impact on them??

People breaking the law does impact on society as a whole. I don't want to live in some lawless anarchic country. I want to feel safe and secure.

ETA: cross posted, I just saw mrshall's last post about her sister being a small time dealer. Speaks volumes.

growler834

mrsHall2b wrote: »

i was bought up in a family where alcohol was frowned upon an never saw my parents drink untill i was 13 or older possibly.

people who drink terrify me i wont lie, if i walk past someone who smells of alcohol i have a panic attack, if my OH drinks i have a panic attack, i have no reason to i just dont like it. although its got worse recently, when i was younger (18-20) i would go out clubbing and it didnt bother me. it only bothers me if im alone with someone whos been drinking. if im with others im not so worried.

So you have no first hand experience of the evils of alcohol but have a fear of it & believe it to be the root of all evil yet cannabis is OK! You really have no grasp on reality - you accuse others of not being in the real world when it comes to drug abuse because they have no experience of drugs - bit of a hypocrite really. You are just trying to excuse the behaviour of those around you - who are you trying to convince - us or yourself?

As for never locking your doors etc in your neighbourhood - if all your neighbours indulge in the same drug abuse there probably isn't anything worth stealing - that well known expression 'Don't s**t on your own doorstep' springs to mind.

duchy

mrsHall2b wrote: »

ill probably get stick for this but seriously?
if your talking about cannabis, your worried about your kids being around it? most dealers don't smoke it themselves as they'd be smoking their profits. now a days most people know someone who

in my eyes what has it got to do with you? why does it matter what your neighbours are doing? you arnt smoking it, you arnt dealing it, so why does it matter? it can be used to show your children that you shouldnt do things like



just my personal opinion

Can't be bothered highlighting the relevant bits
I realize as your sister has been a dealer and is a heavy user you won't see it the same way but most people don't want neighbours drooling and wandering around with a vacant look on their faces doing stupid things because they are stoned.....and that is ignoring the paranoia skunk induces in users and can make them very erratic. So yes I wouldn't want my kids around people like that....and if they are dealing too they will be attracting more slobbering losers to the locale.
Because drunks can be a PITA too doesn't make the druggies any more....or any less acceptable.

It's the same with your feeble excuse that you'd be happy to leave your kids in the care of a stoned doctor or teacher.......maybe you'd be happy for them to drive your kids around whilst they are stoned too ........but it's no different to leaving your kids in the care of a drunk........some people do it........others wouldn't dream of it. If your babysitter has a couple of spliffs after the kids are in bed and something happens like a fire.........are they going to be as alert and fast moving as a babysitter with all neurons firing? Not a risk I ever took with my kids. If you wouldn't leave your kids in the care of a drunk why would you leave them in the care of a stoner (even if they weren't dealing and have random customers around your kids)

My kid didn't grow up thinking drugging or drinking was normal . He knew other people did it but it was never presented to him as normal....and at 22 he has no interest in drugs and little interest in booze after getting drunk a couple of times and deciding he didn't like the after effects. Pretty much the same as I was raised and it worked for me and appears to be working for him too. Environment and parental influence definitely plays a part.

Yes....seriously !

purpleshoes_2

thorsoak wrote: »

...this explains your attitude You and your family ARE part of the problem:(

Whilst I cannot condemn smokers, I do condemn the dealers who sit beside playgrounds/skateparks and the like where young children and teenagers congregate.

Starting on weed is one thing...but leading on to other things that are more harmful, its a wicked downward spiral.

Its actually alcohol that's the biggest gateway drug of them all, many people's first experience of smoking weed is after they have had a drink.

Its not always the case that someone who smokes cannabis will move onto using other harder drugs.

thorsoak

mrsHall2b wrote: »

ive lived with dealers, my sister smokes it, ive house shared with dealers and druggies, some of my closest friends smoke pot. there are at least 6 houses in my immediate 'street' who smoke it, out of them atleast 1 deals, they are only the ones i 'know' there maybe others im not aware of. i rent my home. within my city there are atleast 6 dealers that i know and hundreds who smoke it. maybe because im only 23 and still in contact with people from school im more immerged within it than other people.
we never lock our doors, we leave our bikes in our car port, noone around here has had any issues.

but i dont believe cannabis is an issue and believe there is much worse going on in the country.

i was bought up in a family where alcohol was frowned upon an never saw my parents drink untill i was 13 or older possibly.

people who drink terrify me i wont lie, if i walk past someone who smells of alcohol i have a panic attack, if my OH drinks i have a panic attack, i have no reason to i just dont like it. although its got worse recently, when i was younger (18-20) i would go out clubbing and it didnt bother me. it only bothers me if im alone with someone whos been drinking. if im with others im not so worried.

I wonder what are the crime rates in the areas surrounding that in which you live? Petty crime, shoplifting, and the like? People who smoke have to buy!

GobbledyGook

Funnily enough our neighbours when I was a child felt that what happened in our house didn't impact them so chose to ignore it. It's quite frightening to think that attitude is still around.

Perhaps if someone had stepped in when it was just cannabis (and the paranoia, petty crime, charming individuals it brought contact with and poverty that brought) then it wouldn't have progressed on to other things...

The biggest danger with things like cannabis is children (and young people) thinking it's the most normal thing in the world to do and people being oblivious (or uncaring) about the things that can lead on from it.

When I was 6 I thought that pawning your tv (or selling your kids' christmas presents), living in a stinking house, having fist fights over drugs/money/territory, being paranoid and talking about random things when high were utterly normal. Thankfully when I was 7 my Grandparents stepped in and I learned that it wasn't, and now my children know it isn't either.

I would report it without hesitation. Drug dealing and all the associations with it cause utter misery for everyone except those happy to pocket a few quid on the back of said misery. Plus the OP didn't mention cannabis so it could be "bad" drugs rather than "recreational" drugs which make lives even more miserable.

catkins

mrsHall2b wrote: »

in my eyes what has it got to do with you? why does it matter what your neighbours are doing? you arnt smoking it, you arnt dealing it, so why does it matter?

if you expect its something more sinister then maybe you have a place to complain but i would still say what has it got to do with you?

have you always 100% stayed within the law, never done anything a little bit off, taken a risk, gotten into trouble? i doubt many people can say theyve always been completely straight.

I really can't believe this post. Saying "what does it matter what your neighbours are doing" to someone whose neighbour is dealing drugs!!! Are you serious?


I have a neighbour who is dealing and I have reported them to the police. Yes originally they were doing me no harm but I am totally against drugs so believe he should be reported.


A few weeks ago I was coming out of my house when a guy that I think was one of my neighbour's "customers" was coming out of the neighbour's house (having been in there for all of about 1 minute). I had my dog with me as I was taking him for a walk. I might have glanced at the guy but certainly nothing more but he suddenly launched into a tirade of abuse and threats to me. He said I had been talking about him (what to my dog!), staring at him and that I had made a whole load of trouble for myself and he would be back at some stage to make sure I realised I was in the wrong! Charming and to top it off he had a young boy with him (aged about 4).


I'm sure his rantings were due to whatever rubbish he takes but I am not going to have some loony making threats to me on my own doorstep. So I am going to keep reporting my neighbour until something is done about them.


Oh and not that I see that it makes any difference nor is anyone's business but no I have always stayed within the law and not done anything wrong

aileth

catkins wrote: »

Oh and not that I see that it makes any difference nor is anyone's business but no I have always stayed within the law and not done anything wrong

Here here. Mrshall probably considers law-abiding citizens a rarity if her family are anything to go by.