parking :mad:

Tygermoth

Parking makes people act bizarre.

Years ago I lived in a little two up two down in a long row bent round like a very tight question mark with no through road. The road was only a car wide with very high raised curbs so no on street parking at all. Only every second house had a drive. Those that did not had to park up by the shops a good solid 5 min walk.

I had a house with a drive. My neighbour without asking took to parking in my drive. I didn’t mind as I did not have a car and the walk from the shop was a killer. (Being asked would have been nice but heyho)

A good few months later my Grandmother came to stay as was very poorly. She was having chemo treatment at the local hospital. After her first visit the ambulance service refused to come down the road and drop her off due to the high curbs and nowhere to turn (they had to reverse the whole way back up) and my space being filled by the neighbour’s car.

As such I called on my neighbour explained the issue and advised that I would need my drive for the next few weeks.

The next day her car was in my drive. The ambulance guy was un amused as I had assured him the space would be free. I went round the neighbours again, and explained that I needed the drive. She just kept saying ‘but you aint got a car’ as if I lost all right to use my driveway because I didn’t drive. I reminded her that the inconvenience would only be for a few weeks.

A few days later got a call from the ambulance guy; you guessed it she was parked in the drive. So they refused to drop my Grandma off at the door from that point on (and I could totally see why, the road was a nightmare for a car but reversing a patient transport all the way up to the main road would have been a major pita) so from that day on my Gran had to walk.

Same day I bought a huge bin placed it at the end of my drive. While she was out I filled it with cement.

She did try to move it repeatedly but it weighed a tonne! In the end a friend put his SORNed rust bucket of a car on the drive, which we were sure she keyed on more than one occasion. not that either of us were bothered.

She used to glare at the house and that bin/car every time she used to have to slog home from the car park arms full of shopping bags in the pouring rain. Every time I started to feel sorry for her I remembered my poor gran sick as a dog dragging herself home.

GobbledyGook

Person_one wrote: »

I don't really think the basketball issue is comparable. I'd have no problem with my neighbours doing that. To be honest, I'd rather see a big concrete space used for teenagers to play and be physically active than reserved as sacred car space. They're not stopping anybody else using their own drive how they wish.

Perhaps I'm biased because of other issues they caused, but I found it inconsiderate.

The street had 12 houses, 14 on street parking places and 3 of the houses, theirs included, had drives/offstreet parking (other houses didn't have the option to create drives because of the slope). To me not using part of their frankly massive garden rather than using their drive was inconsiderate because it meant that of the 14 parking spaces they were using 4 (they didn't park in front of their drive either in case the ball hit the cars) rather than just 1 or 2 (if any) they'd have needed to use if they'd parked on the drive/in front of their drive.

Anyway I wish I hadn't said anything now as it's sidetracking from the OP's own dilemma!

justme111

Kayalana99 wrote: »

This thread is so pointless.

OP you have had GREAT advice time and time again yet you ignore it and keep going on about how its illegal and unfair....

You *seem* to have a good relationship with your neighbour...isn't it obvious why he only parks over your drive? He ASSUMES you don't mind because he knows YOU...since you do...SAY something...and he should stop.

If he doesn't then you can get as irrational as you want...but unless you say something how is he to know?

I am only repeating what others have said but since you are not listening and repeating yourself perhaps you might take notice? [
Hey hey , so if someone does not seem to behave as you think is right or take notice if good advice you recur to capital letters and calling what they say pointless ?
I did not ask what to do , I asked what people think. They told me what they think for which I am grateful. Now I am talking about generalities like invoking notion of fair /unfair which is in my opinion wrong thing to do as it brings conflicts on due to different people having different opinions as a couple of last posts illustrate. That's why people invented laws - so that there are no conflicts due to difference in opinions... Would you so kindly let me discuss it ? Apologies for getting on your nerves with a pointless thread

justme111

GobbledyGook wrote: »

Perhaps I'm biased because of other issues they caused, but I found it inconsiderate.

The street had 12 houses, 14 on street parking places and 3 of the houses, theirs included, had drives/offstreet parking (other houses didn't have the option to create drives because of the slope). To me not using part of their frankly massive garden rather than using their drive was inconsiderate because it meant that of the 14 parking spaces they were using 4 (they didn't park in front of their drive either in case the ball hit the cars) rather than just 1 or 2 (if any) they'd have needed to use if they'd parked on the drive/in front of their drive.

Anyway I wish I hadn't said anything now as it's sidetracking from the OP's own dilemma!

You are not sidetracking at all , you illustrating very good point in.my .opinion that it is a dangerous road to evoke manners and consideration as humans are so prone to see any issue not objectively but from their own perspective ..
Often there are situations with no clear right and wrong so safer to stick to the letter of law..
I reckon in my case I just felt vulnerable being a single female and jealous of people who have 3 vans and a car . So I forgot others may have their own vulnerabilities ...

pollyanna24

Just because I didn't use my drive, I would think of the dropped kerb outside my house to be mine to park in as well (as there's always the possibility of me needing to get to my drive). I use my drive though, so don't have the problem the OP has.

Just as an additional point, down my mum's road, there are people who park their car in their front garden even though there is no dropped kerb. Am I allowed to park in front of their car (the road is notoriously busy and a bus route and very hard to find parking spaces). If there is no car in the front garden, I tend to park there as it's just tough luck, it's not a driveway, but just wondered if they have any rights if they have a car in there. I mean, I could be really shortsighted or having a bad day and not concentrating and just park up and not realise there's a car in there.

Kayalana99

pollyanna24 wrote: »

Just as an additional point, down my mum's road, there are people who park their car in their front garden even though there is no dropped kerb. Am I allowed to park in front of their car (the road is notoriously busy and a bus route and very hard to find parking spaces). If there is no car in the front garden, I tend to park there as it's just tough luck, it's not a driveway, but just wondered if they have any rights if they have a car in there. I mean, I could be really shortsighted or having a bad day and not concentrating and just park up and not realise there's a car in there.

Wow just wow. These people who live their...parking on their front garden out the way of anyone else...and your as spiteful to think because its not a dropped kerb you want to block them in?

I don't think it IS possible to park in front of a place you regularly seem to go without noticing a car their..

Why can't people just be considerate of others? Is that really so hard?

You will simply force them to park on the road instead anyway.... so it won't be doing you any favours in the long run.

GobbledyGook

justme111 wrote: »

You are not sidetracking at all , you illustrating very good point in.my .opinion that it is a dangerous road to evoke manners and consideration as humans are so prone to see any issue not objectively but from their own perspective ..
Often there are situations with no clear right and wrong so safer to stick to the letter of law..
I reckon in my case I just felt vulnerable being a single female and jealous of people who have 3 vans and a car . So I forgot others may have their own vulnerabilities ...

I think simply sticking to the letter of the law isn't always the best thing to do either when it comes to neighbours.

My music is on, because my neighbours have all their windows open and are doing work on their house atm which means they've removed all the plaster, insulation etc (i.e. they have zero soundproofing) they can probably hear it. Not in a blaring 'OMG listen to how loud that is' but more in a 'warm day, windows open, noise carries.

Within the letter of the law what I am doing at 1.30pm is fine. However whilst playing the same song over and over and over might be legal, it would be extremely annoying and wouldn't be very neighbourly!

I think the fact that humans do evoke manners and consideration is something to consider when you want a good relationship with that person, even if that's just a friendly neighbourly good relationship.

So in your shoes you have to balance that, yes, within the letter of the law you'd be within your rights to tell the neighbour to stop over-hanging your drive you have to decide if it's worth the potential ill-feeling.

I think the fact that you even posted debating the fact shows that even you, who believes in the letter of the law over manners, think about those things too.

daisiegg

Kayalana99 wrote: »

Wow just wow. These people who live their...parking on their front garden out the way of anyone else...and your as spiteful to think because its not a dropped kerb you want to block them in?

Why can't people just be considerate of others? Is that really so hard?

To be fair, they are not exactly keeping out of the way of everyone else because if you can't park on the road in front of their garden, they may as well be parked on the road in front of their garden! It is no different; they are still 'using' the same space in the road, whether it is by being parked in there or by needing it clear to be able to park in their garden.

Kayalana99

daisiegg wrote: »

To be fair, they are not exactly keeping out of the way of everyone else because if you can't park on the road in front of their garden, they may as well be parked on the road in front of their garden! It is no different; they are still 'using' the same space in the road, whether it is by being parked in there or by needing it clear to be able to park in their garden.

Well yes...because they are off the road. It's not about parking it's about them not being parked on a road (that happens to be a busy bus route)

Doesn't make your life easier but it may make a few others, that said it wouldn't make it any more difficult for you if they are parked on a road it would simply be a space you couldn't use...so I don't see what the problem is.

Nothing I can say will change anything, if you are a spiteful person then your going to do it anyway.

daisiegg

Kayalana99 wrote: »

Well yes...because they are off the road. It's not about parking it's about them not being parked on a road (that happens to be a busy bus route)

Doesn't make your life easier but it may make a few others, that said it wouldn't make it any more difficult for you if they are parked on a road it would simply be a space you couldn't use...so I don't see what the problem is.

Nothing I can say will change anything, if you are a spiteful person then your going to do it anyway.

It is not me! Lol. This doesn't happen on my road and I would not block someone in who had parked on their garden I was just saying, that's all.