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  • balletshoes
    balletshoes Posts: 16,610 Forumite
    edited 24 May 2014 at 4:29PM
    justme111 wrote: »
    My neighbours car stops my visitors from using the space where my neighbour parked. Space on the road in front of the dropped curb .

    and? if its a visitor they don't have any more rights than your neighbour does to any parking space on the roadside. Presumably your visitors could park 50 yards up the road? I really don't understand what your issue is.
  • Person_one
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    OP, this neighbour has been really nice to you and done you favours. He's not a bad person or a person who has it in for you, so take that as your starting point!

    He's only parking there because he knows you don't use your drive and that he isn't blocking you from getting your car in or out. That's what makes it different from the time you did it to a stranger. You were inconsiderate, he has considered whether you will be affected and concluded that you won't.

    Let it drop, unless you want to sour neighbourly relations and scupper your chances of getting invited to any barbecues on your road this summer.
  • Tiddlywinks
    Tiddlywinks Posts: 5,777 Forumite
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    edited 24 May 2014 at 4:52PM
    justme111 wrote: »
    Just give me your opinion please
    One of my neighbours often parks in front of my. drive
    It is known I never use my drive to get into my parking space as the slope is too steep in my front garden. So I usually park on the road in fron.t. of my house . When I just moved in I used to park on the road in front of my drive. but realised that everybody else was parking in front of not dropped kerb. so that space in.front of the drive was left free or used by another car in the household /visitors etc. As I live alone I have only one car and don't need 2 parking spaces so my neighbour if he sees my car parked alongside the raised curb in.fro.t of my house taken to parking in such a way that he obstructs my drive by about a meter or two. Our children play together , we had drinks at each others sometimes , he installed my.kitchen sink and built up my daughter's bed - if it was not for that I would have.promptly placed a note on his windscreen . I don't need parking space that he occupies on.most occasions so I feel mean in.resenting him doing it. I still feel he takes a p..s with it though and it gets to me !
    What would your advice be in dealing with it ?
    Apologiesor typos , my phone absolutely refuses to delete dots it places liberally .everywhere !
    Person_one wrote: »
    OP, this neighbour has been really nice to you and done you favours. He's not a bad person or a person who has it in for you, so take that as your starting point!

    He's only parking there because he knows you don't use your drive and that he isn't blocking you from getting your car in or out. That's what makes it different from the time you did it to a stranger. You were inconsiderate, he has considered whether you will be affected and concluded that you won't.

    Let it drop, unless you want to sour neighbourly relations and scupper your chances of getting invited to any barbecues on your road this summer.

    You don't use it BUT you don't want anyone else to use it either... even the person that has helped you out in the past?

    Hope you don't ever need to ask for his help again in the future... he might not be as willing to be friendly after this petty view over him parking in a space that you don't even own.
    :hello:
  • justme111
    justme111 Posts: 3,531 Forumite
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    I have not asked for help , he offered it on all occasions
    If I will have to pay for help with feeling of being walked over I surely know what I would have preferred.
    The word "dilemma" comes from Greek where "di" means two and "lemma" means premise. Refers usually to difficult choice between two undesirable options.
    Often people seem to use this word mistakenly where "quandary" would fit better.
  • *max*
    *max* Posts: 3,208 Forumite
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    Stop being such a drama queen over nothing...Feeling "walked over" because a neighbour who has been so nice to you and helped you out in the past parks on a patch of road you don't even use. It's so mean-spirited and petty. I can just see you having a toddler tantrum and stomping your feet "But it's miiiiiiiiiine! I don't use it, but I don't want anyone else to have it!". Glad you're not my neighbour.
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    I have not asked for help , he offered it on all occasions
    Just as you haven't asked him not to park there, he has offered to do so on all occasions.

    I actually can relate to your frustration. I wouldn't want someone half/fully parked in front of my drive, because I might have friends over and would like to make use of the drive for them, because I might need to park there exceptionally to carry something heavy, or I might want to clean my car etc... However, I don't understand why you can't just go and talk to him and tell him the above. For all likelihood, he will just apologise and the matter will be over.
  • liney
    liney Posts: 5,121 Forumite
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    To the letter of the law you are probably right. You could start parking across your own dropped kerb so that he does not, but you can not stop him from parking where you do now.

    This will mean that your visitors will still not have anywhere to park, and you will have peed off a good neighbour by being petty.

    Is it really worth it? Use your drive, and therefore ask with good reason that he does not park there or use the road and accept that there will be minor inconveniences.
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  • justme111 wrote: »
    My neighbours car stops my visitors from using the space where my neighbour parked. Space on the road in front of the dropped curb .

    How often do you actually have visitors?

    Aside from the technicalities of the dropped kerb issue, I would think that your neighbour has more rights to park on your street than your visitors do. As others have said, your own car is taking up a space that your neighbour could park in. From the sounds of it, you want three parking spaces available to you - your drive way, the area in front of your driveway, plus your normal parking spot. This seems excessive for (what I assume is) a one car household.
  • KentishLady
    KentishLady Posts: 293 Forumite
    Wow to this thread!!

    Seems to me that the OP has two options:

    1) use her drive

    2) get the dropped kerb removed if she doesn't intent to use the drive

    (or maybe a third - perhaps you could offer the drive to your neighbour and he could use it for a small rental fee?)

    It is YOUR choice to park your car on the road instead of your driveway. I do wonder how steep it is to make it impossible for you to use it!!!!! And if it really is that steep why on earth would anyone have put a driveway there in the first place? I could understand in icy conditions it may be sensible to park on the road but it would have to be incredibly steep for you to not be able to use it the rest of the year (perhaps some refresher lessons in hill starts and controlled hill descents would assist?)

    Compare this situation to mine - we live in a controlled parking zone as we are 2 minutes from a major hospital - you have to have a residents permit to park in our road. Most people have two or more houses per household and street is composed up of small terraced houses - each house is no more than 3 metres wide.

    My husband and brother in law are both disabled, we have a car which has a disabled tax disc (they are both in receipt of higher rate DLA mobility) and car parking is a major problem if we are not able to park reasonably close to the house. It is not unknown for people to have to park 2 or 3 roads away - too far for them to walk.

    Our council do allow people to apply for a disabled bay - but you have to pay a fee which goes towards the administration involved (admin staff to review the application, and the people who come out and actually paint the road). So we duly applied for and paid for a disabled bay - however ANYONE who has a valid blue badge can park in the bay which sits outside our house.

    Most of the time it is not a problem - however our house next door is now rented by tenants one of whom also has a blue badge and thinks nothing of using the disabled bay which we had to pay a fee to get painted. She could of course apply to the council herself and get her own bay outside her house - but why would she when there is one already conveniently next to her front gate?

    Despite this being incredibly frustrating I wouldnt dream of falling out with a neighbour over this - I am considering getting the forms from the council for her and offering to pay the admin fee if she can't afford it - but that is the most I would do in terms of discussing the situation with her.

    I did have to giggle the other night though when her mum had come round (she also has a blue badge). B-in-L was in the garden having a sneaky ciggy when he heard next door's mum saying "There's no disabled parking round her - I dont understand why the council dont put in more disabled bays so that I can park my car near your house". Ummmmm because if your daughter wanted a disabled bay outside her house she could apply for one - she hasnt so there isnt one!

    Anyway I guess what I am saying is in line with other peoples sentiments on this thread - you're over-reacting. Either use your drive, or think of it as being normal pavement with no dropped kerb. You can't have it both ways if you are going to be seen as reasonable.

    KL
  • justme111
    justme111 Posts: 3,531 Forumite
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    I have visitors a couple of times a week.
    Very much as you described , mostly it is me being unhappy because someone uses what I see as mine. I suppose I will have to clarify the legality of someone parking in front of dropped curb as opinions here are divided on that one. At a risk of repeating myself - they treat other people's dropped curbs as a sacred thing there so I was convinced it was illegal but a few of you said it is not..
    So many of you said I was irresonable that I seen the situation in a new light and agree it may be the case. I am concerned as well though if I let go the issue of this particular neighbour parking there others may start doing it as well and then it will end up in me never having place to park there . I shall check legality of it , if indeed dropped curb means nothing then that's fine although disappointing , when I was buying the house one of the good features of it was being assured that there is always parking at least for one car. I understand a few of you comparing your own parking situations that are worse to mine and saying my worries are lesser cause I don't have it too bad. I agree there are streets with worse parking issues.

    I know I can react emotionally to certain things , you told me I indeed seemed.to do so , I have looked at it in a different light , resentment I felt.towards the neighbour subsided , I will report later how it has developed as once people are not all worked up about something it tends to resolve spontaneously ..:)
    The word "dilemma" comes from Greek where "di" means two and "lemma" means premise. Refers usually to difficult choice between two undesirable options.
    Often people seem to use this word mistakenly where "quandary" would fit better.
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