How much to pay a live in carer

cattermole

I did point out way back in response to your first couple of posts that technically yes anyone can claim carers if they meet the criteria.

After that until tonight I Ignored your posts because your not telling us anything we don't already know and it had nothing to do with the OP's query regarding employment.

sh1981

cattermole wrote: »

I did point out way back in response to your first couple of posts that technically yes anyone can claim carers if they meet the criteria.

After that until tonight I Ignored your posts because your not telling us anything we don't already know.

Well if you ignored my posts why respond now? IF you already know what I said, and you agree with it, what's the issue? I also said the same thing that any odd person CAN claim CA for you if they meet the criteria but somehow some people were hell bent on proving me wrong by terming it an 'allowance' as if its an 'inferior' form of 'money'. I've been right all along really.

nannytone_2

self employed/employed status is irrelevantas people that receive CA dont have a 'job'
i would assu,e that wealthy people employ people to do the caring for them while they continue earning money.
you unserestimate the strain that lack of money can place on people that are already under immense strain directly caused by the demands of caring for a severely disabled person.
to then think they should be happy to livce from hand to mouth, forever scared to turn the heating on, worrying what they will do when their 20 year old fridge breaks down or even fretting about how they will replace the shoes that they are walking out the botton of is beyond insensitive.
to suggest that in the odd few minutes they have to themselves they should be sourcing waus to live for free leads me to believe you live on another planet

sh1981

nannytone wrote: »

self employed/employed status is irrelevantas people that receive CA dont have a 'job'
i would assu,e that wealthy people employ people to do the caring for them while they continue earning money.
you unserestimate the strain that lack of money can place on people that are already under immense strain directly caused by the demands of caring for a severely disabled person.
to then think they should be happy to livce from hand to mouth, forever scared to turn the heating on, worrying what they will do when their 20 year old fridge breaks down or even fretting about how they will replace the shoes that they are walking out the botton of is beyond insensitive.
to suggest that in the odd few minutes they have to themselves they should be sourcing waus to live for free leads me to believe you live on another planet

With all due respect if they dont have a 'job' as a carer then how do they get a 'wage' as you were proposing all along?

I underestimate the strain of lack of money? So you mean to say I've never felt what poverty is like? That's news to me. However unlike some, I respect your opinion. If that's what you think of me, that's fine by me, but nevertheless I am get again very disappointed that you judged me personally.

You are now being extremly libelous by saying things I never said.

Your status by the way self employed / employed / worker etc is VERY important in eyes of HMRC, it all has to be legally reported even if you volunteer.

May I also add that people who get CA also get Carers Credit which effects their national insurance. https://www.gov.uk/carers-credit/eligibility Moreover you dont have to be in receipt of CA to get CC. It is in all forms equal to a 'job' and can be further classified as full time, part time, self employed, worker etc.

sh1981

I have to go to bed now. I shall continue tommorow. Until then I'll leave you with another fact:

nannytone_2

i never said that you dont know what poverty is like. you said CA with an IS top up was sufficient. i was merely pointing out, that long term, it is a very difficult way to live combined with the enormous pressures caring can impose... life can become almost unbearable. and this is how we treat people that save the country a small fortune by taking on the responsibility.
i have never said that they get a wage, i correctlu said it was an allowance. it is you that keeps wrongly referring to it as a ;wage'.
can you post where you consider me to be libelous please because i dont have a clue what you are talking about.
yes, CA is taxable, but that still doesnt make it a wage. as for carers credit, it is a bational insurance contribution paid towards your state pension, in much the same way as those that receive child benefit, JSA, ESA also receive NI credits.
it is in recognition that people that 'care' dont have the ability to work outside of the home sufficiently to make their own contributions. it isnt the same as having a 'job' it is just to make sure that people that have spent their lives saving the nation a fortune, arent penakised when it comes to retirement

SingleSue

sh1981 wrote: »

Caring is a part time job. There is no obligation to meet national minimum wage.

I wish!

I work longer hours now than I did when I was working full time with an additional part time job.

For the record, I receive carers allowance, income support, child tax credits (as I have children) plus housing benefit and council tax benefit. I do not receive working tax credit (I am not in paid employment, so not eligable) or direct payments.

I care (officially) for my youngest son who has complex needs and also unofficially for my middle son....you can only get carers allowance for caring for one person, so although you may care for more than one person, you do not get more than one amount of carers allowance.

Edit - To pay an agency carer to do the same hours of care I currently do, would cost many hundreds, maybe even thousands per week. If they were only to receive the value of the carers allowance, it wouldn't even cover the waking up and breakfast time for one day.

SingleSue

sh1981 wrote: »

Which is what I said! In fact these links were pasted by me!
Nowhere does it say a carers job is 'full time' hence it CAN be 'part time'. The key phrase is this: There is no specific number of hours that makes someone full or part-time.

If you look at that link carefully, it does say that full time is considered to be 35 hours or over per week. To be officially classed as a carer and be in receipt of carers allowance, you need to care for 35 hours or more per week.

Thus not part time.

Yes, you may care for less than 35 hours and be part time but then you also would not receive carers allowance.

HB58

Hitherto I have never, on any forum, felt the need to utilise the 'ignore' function. After reading this thread, I have come to understand its value!

RAS

rose28454 wrote: »

The other is a South African lady who has moved to UK to be near her sister and her experience is nursing her own father. Mum liked her and we are supposed to be trying her out next weekend.

Hi

You do understand your legal obligations with respect to the employment of non-UK nationals?

The fine for failing to comply is now about £20K.

To avoid allegations of discrimination, you need to ask both women (and preferably any other person you interview) to provide the required dcoumentation and you have to be able to produce copies of that documentation if you are asked for it.

You also need employer liability insurance, and to arrange for both National Insurance and Tax deductions and payments to the relevant authorities.