How much to pay a live in carer

sh1981

nannytone wrote: »

so people on JSA get a wage for being unemployed? parents get a wage ( child benefit) for having children?
you really have a skewed way of looking at things

Again, a very personal comment to say I have a 'skewed' way of looking at things. Quite on the contrary I never introduced the terms wage or allowance or anything. Someone on JSA does not get a wage, they get 'money', which is a common factor among those paid a wage or an allowance. However this is irrelevant to the discussion and to the thread. As I said, a carer gets money for the services and that's it, what's wrong with that if I may ask? Why term it as a 'wage' or an 'allowance'?

NYM

sh1981 wrote: »

Just for you I'll post it again:

A part-time worker is someone who works fewer hours than a full-time worker. There is no specific number of hours that makes someone full or part-time

https://www.gov.uk/part-time-worker-rights

Official .gov website, thus a FACT. Therefore what I said was FACTUALLY correct. However it can also be FULL TIME. It varies and depends on the person cared for, which also I have stated MANY a times!

The full quote....

A part-time worker is someone who works fewer hours than a full-time worker.
There is no specific number of hours that makes someone full or part-time, but a full-time worker will usually work 35 hours or more a week.

sh1981 wrote: »

Caring is a part time job. There is no obligation to meet national minimum wage.

Carer’s Allowance is £61.35 a week to help you look after someone with substantial caring needs.

You don’t have to be related to, or live with, the person you care for.

You must be 16 or over and spend at least 35 hours a week caring for them.

https://www.gov.uk/carers-allowance/overview

nannytone_2

i volunteer too.
but very few would volunteer for a minimum of 35 hours a week for £60. when would people have time to earn money to live?
even those who receive income support as a top up still only have around £107 a week . that is a subsistance existance, and for anyone to say they would do that long term, through choice isnt being homest.you care for the person usually because you love and care about them, not for the CA!
that is why it is usually a member of the family that fills the role and not just some 'odd stranger'

sh1981

NYM wrote: »

The full quote....

A part-time worker is someone who works fewer hours than a full-time worker.
There is no specific number of hours that makes someone full or part-time, but a full-time worker will usually work 35 hours or more a week.






Carer’s Allowance is £61.35 a week to help you look after someone with substantial caring needs.

You don’t have to be related to, or live with, the person you care for.

You must be 16 or over and spend at least 35 hours a week caring for them.

https://www.gov.uk/carers-allowance/overview

Which is what I said! In fact these links were pasted by me!
Nowhere does it say a carers job is 'full time' hence it CAN be 'part time'. The key phrase is this: There is no specific number of hours that makes someone full or part-time.

NYM

sh1981 wrote: »

Which is what I said! In fact these links were pasted by me!
Nowhere does it say a carers job is 'full time' hence it CAN be 'part time'. The key phrase is this: There is no specific number of hours that makes someone full or part-time.

:wall: :silenced:

nannytone_2

sh1981 wrote: »

Again, a very personal comment to say I have a 'skewed' way of looking at things. Quite on the contrary I never introduced the terms wage or allowance or anything. Someone on JSA does not get a wage, they get 'money', which is a common factor among those paid a wage or an allowance. However this is irrelevant to the discussion and to the thread. As I said, a carer gets money for the services and that's it, what's wrong with that if I may ask? Why term it as a 'wage' or an 'allowance'?

because they are different things!
if it is a wafe, then it would have to be paid at the level of NMW minimally and not the less than £2 an hour currently given via the allowance

sh1981

nannytone wrote: »

i volunteer too.
but very few would volunteer for a minimum of 35 hours a week for £60. when would people have time to earn money to live?
even those who receive income support as a top up still only have around £107 a week . that is a subsistance existance, and for anyone to say they would do that long term, through choice isnt being homest.you care for the person usually because you love and care about them, not for the CA!
that is why it is usually a member of the family that fills the role and not just some 'odd stranger'

You dont need money to live first of all ( I bet after making this statement I'll get a barrage of reponses asking how!), but other than that one could be independantly wealthy. There is also no substance in your statement that very few would volunteer.

By the way your statement that I wanted to bold but cant as you already take the liberty to bold everything, which states that people dont care for CA, which is what I was saying all along, also makes CA irrelevant and thus can safely NOT be claimed.

And no it can be any 'odd stranger' contrary to what you are saying as it says so in the rules and is ALLOWED by the law!

Also the income support example you gave is MORE than sufficient to live, that's why the rate is set by the government but depends on the persons lifestyle. It depends on their lifestyle I repeat it depends on their lifestyle!!!

Torry_Quine

sh1981 wrote: »

With all due respect, my views are not erronous. A carer can be a 'career' carer who would do it as a job, or could be someone getting an 'allowance' as it is termed, however they both get paid. That was simply my point. Furthermore there is no definition of full time and part time. Also I made the error of merely portraying my most humble opinion in saying that for some people (and apparently I'm the only one out of 6 billion on this planet) who would care for someone and not worry about whether they are paid a 'wage' or an 'allowance', or well even 'nothing'.

Carer's allowance is a small sum of money for those who are unable to work and earn more than £102 per week and is an acknowledgment (however small) of the huge debt society owes to these people.

If you would care for a stranger for carers allowance or even nothing then you must be a very altruisic and rich person.

I will say no more to you as your views are yours alone, thankfully.

sh1981

nannytone wrote: »

because they are different things!
if it is a wafe, then it would have to be paid at the level of NMW minimally and not the less than £2 an hour currently given via the allowance

WRONG. There is no definition of National Minimum Wage or even a requirement of it if you are for instance SELF EMPLOYED. Shall I quote you a link or would you for once take my word for it? Actaully google it. Thanks.

sh1981

Torry_Quine wrote: »

Carer's allowance is a small sum of money for those who are unable to work and earn more than £102 per week and is an acknowledgment (however small) of the huge debt society owes to these people.

If you would care for a stranger for carers allowance or even nothing then you must be a very altruisic and rich person.

I will say no more to you as your views are yours alone, thankfully.

My views might be mine alone, and Torry Quine I thank you for respecting the fact that they are my views, and not degrading me like some others here have been constantly trying to do.

However CA as you said, I beg to differ, is not in any form an 'acknowledgement', it is MONEY. If it is so negligible and insignificant then might as well not claim it.