How much to pay a live in carer

cattermole

Cyclamen wrote: »

I am another voter for the experience isnt always essential.

One of my best carers owned a dog walking company, she applied for my job (social worker helped me advertise) to top up her hours and worked self employed doing her own tax etc..she just billed me. She helped with personal care and meal prep and it worked really well, she even took me to hospital appointments etc.

Another lady i employed directly had all the qualifications but i just didn't feel comfortable.. it is really really hard to accept care, especially if your mum is independent and wants to do things herself.

I now use an agency and havea list of ladies (dont mean to be sexist but cant face a chap showering me other than my husband) that I am happy for them to send.

Both counties I have lived in have paid for my insurance and both used the enhanced FISH insurance.

When I have employed others independantly an dnot via an agency the counties have done payslips telling me how much tax to pay and the HMRC have an incredibly patient team for dealing with people who employ via direct payments.

I think £11 is about right.. i know it seems a lot higher than minimum wage but if the person is self employed they have to do the tax, insurance etc .. My first county told me to pay between £9 - £10.50 p/h that was 5 years ago, this county states somewhere between £10-£13 p/h.

Are there any social clubs in the area.. we have 'wednesday club' in the park hall, always seemsto be packed with oldies playing cards, nattering and eating cake.. there is a bus that picks them up at the door and returns them after lunch.. maybe social services could find something for your mum?

I agree about experience we trained all inexperienced often young staff from nothing to be able to tube feed amongst other quite complex tasks. Two have gone on to become Nurses and on a Special Needs Teacher. They tend to have less preconceived ideas. One care worker we employed in a different situation with my Dad who had dementia was fantastic with him just chatting and befriending him. She had no previous experience just a lovely bubbly caring personality and willingness.

Regarding pay yes £11 for self employed is reasonable but we were talking employed. It isn't that straight forward for a carer to be self employed status because a) HMRC have to agree it and b) it then means they are deemed like an agency in terms of the registration process. I've rarely come across self employed carers funded by a DP for this reason.

Age UK over a lot of services some they charge for and some they don't but I do think its worth original poster looking into. Mum in law has a cleaner through them (paid) but she also has a couple of befrienders (free). She has so improved since Age uk have become involved (although she doesn't have dementia. Totally agree about clubs

I really think OP should go through a reassessment with Social Services and try and put together a mixed package which may include some private care as well.

nannytone_2

sh1981 wrote: »

sh1981 is an expert who reads with extreme precision.

but no understanding

sh1981

nannytone wrote: »

sh 1981lll
you obviously have no idea what youre talking about or how social service assessments or direct payments work.
we have tried to explain but you either cannot, or will not understand.

elderly people do have more care needs but proving that these are above and beyond what ALL ekderky people need is exptremely difficult.
not all people receiving direct payment funding are wheelchair bound or bedbound.
i myself receive direct payments . they are also at a high level, in fact i dont know anyone that gets as well funded as i do. ( i must point out that my county council are well known for their decent funding levels for people of working age)
i have no physical disability. i use the gym 3 times a week,swimming 30 lengths and managing 9km in 15 minutes on the exercise bike.
according to you, i shouldnt be eligable for direct payments.
proves how little you know about disability and the type of care that is needeed

Wait a minute, did I read that right? You get direct payments even thought you go to the gym and swim?!?!?!?!? What?
Anyway when did I say anything about you I dont even know you or your situation in fact now that you've written it i'm quite concerned how do you manage to get so much if youre nto disabled??? Well ataully I dont really care to be honest. But the thing is I do understand and I'm right that's what you need to realise really.

sh1981

Mojisola wrote: »

I think that's the trouble - even if you're wrong, you'll keep insisting that you're right.

But I'm right though!

nannytone_2

sh1981 wrote: »

Wait a minute, did I read that right? You get direct payments even thought you go to the gym and swim?!?!?!?!? What?

i am also blind and without the help of my PA, i woukd be virtually housebound.
i receive the level of funding in part, because i am as active as i am.
my social worker sees no reason why i shouldnt be allowed to be as fit and active as i would be if i were sighted

Mojisola

sh1981 wrote: »

But I'm right though!

Yes, sh1981, whatever you say.

cattermole

Nanny .The words hijack and baiting spring to mind!

NYM

sh1981 wrote: »

Wait a minute, did I read that right? You get direct payments even thought you go to the gym and swim?!?!?!?!? What?
Anyway when did I say anything about you I dont even know you or your situation in fact now that you've written it i'm quite concerned how do you manage to get so much if youre nto disabled??? Well ataully I dont really care to be honest. But the thing is I do understand and I'm right that's what you need to realise really.

Not only are you WRONG....you're very rude. :mad:

sh1981

Mojisola wrote: »

Yes, sh1981, whatever you say.

Thank you. That's what I like to hear

nannytone_2

sh1981 wrote: »

reported!!! that was personal I'm highly offended and deeply disturbed now. no right absolutely no right at all whatsoever to call me an 'idiot'.

and where was your name mentioned in my post?
you obviously 'think' it was directed at you.
maybe you have a point ....