daily signing at jobcentre

Fishingtime

My employer makes me sign in every day too, is there anyway I can get out of this

starrystarry

tomterm8 wrote: »

We're talking about people who've been unemployed for 2 to 3 years.

For 2 to 3 years minimum, many people will have been out of work for significantly longer than that. I believe at least one poster on this thread has been unemployed for 7 years.

melysion

Its a punishment, pure and simple, designed to make life as uncomfortable as possible so that claimants sign off rather than face their daily dose of patronising bullying dished out to them by JSA advisors.

If the government was serious about getting the long term unemployed into work, there would be real investment into worthwhile training, qualifications and work placements (real work placements, not charity shops and Poundland). Oh - and actual job creation. No point in bullying people into work if there are no jobs to bully them into.

V_For_Verminator

Some of the opinions on this thread are downright scary. The government and the Daily Mail have done a fantastic job at rewriting society and making people on benefits the bad guys.

There were a lot of issues with the benefits system and some of those have been resolved. This scheme on the other hand is just a gimmick - if people are long term unemployed there is a reason for it and making them go to the job centre every day isn't going to resolve it.

This horrendous stereotype that people on JSA have no interest in getting a job is absolutely hideous. Most people are honest men and women who want to get a job like there's no tomorrow. They shouldn't be made to jump through hoops to get benefits - benefits to which they have highly likely contributed huge amounts to via National Insurance Contributions.

Being jobless is not a crime despite the whispering campaign.

pelirocco

duchy wrote: »

I reckon (us) tax payers have every right to be angry. Very angry that the government is wasting so much (of our hard earned tax) money on a job centre system that simply doesn't work .

The job of the job centre is to help people find work -not make it more difficult .

Do I think there should be sanctions- Yes I do - but fairly applied ones and not as part of a quota system .

Quite frankly some on the stupid remarks on this thread made me ashamed to be a tax payer if some of the posters claiming to be taxpayers on here are representative (which I don't believe they are- most tax payers are both better informed and better mannered !)

One slight flaw in your logic, there aren't enough jobs to keep everyone in employment

But don't let that stand in the way of your prejudices

And yes I am employed and yes I do pay taxes , further more I am an employer




Duchy

I may have misread your post , apologies

xnatillyx

You would have thought being the amazing workers they would be intelligent but alas they all seem to think the job market is easy. Try being in our shoes , early twenties trying to get a job in this day and age. You sit in your cushy jobs being able to afford the basics and more , it isn't the seventies where you could walk into any job , get in and still be there 30 years later.
It is not reality anymore , i hate jsa and actually want to work same with my partner. You know the only way we have been able to get off it - a pittance paid apprenticeship. No jobs other than for my fiance warehouse jobs and even they are not feasible anymore - one he recently did - he managed 4 hours till he was sent home.
I am sorry no one living in their own place could afford to live like that , you workers wish your safe stable jobs wouldn't do it no matter what you say. Surely it is a better use of time and money long-term to work on getting a secure job avoiding going to and from benefits and never finding a proper job.
Also going ot the job centre everyday will not increase the chance of work , they do no help at all same with the useless work programne.

We have both got our apprenticeships off our own back. My fiance's one is brilliant and when he has a 30k a year job at the end of this screw all the 'anti-benefit' brigade. There is not enough help to get people into work , they just want them off benefits to lower figures and long term what will they solve. That is the issues here.

BillJones

reason2 wrote: »

so after years of working, you beleive your not entitled to any benefit for the short term.. you should be forced to do something to earn it.. even though paying thousands in tax should be sufficent?

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic there, or not.

Yes, if someone has spent decades paying in a lot of money then they ought to feel free to claim back what they can. On the other hand, many on here have never got close to paying back what society has paid them, and yet still squeal like a stuck pig when asked to fulfill their side of the deal. They deserve nothing but scorn.

Gaz1971

It wont last, if every person who has to sign daily gets the bus, its going to cost the tax payer more than Ian Duncan Smith's breakfast.

The angry ones on here that dont like giving benefits to unemployed people should worry more about a benefits system that allowed the multimillionaire George Osborne to claim child benefit for years.

starrystarry

Gaz1971 wrote: »

The angry ones on here that dont like giving benefits to unemployed people should worry more about a benefits system that allowed the multimillionaire George Osborne to claim child benefit for years.

Not much point worrying about that when that particular flaw in the system was fixed several years ago.

Yorkie1

Gaz1971 wrote: »

It wont last, if every person who has to sign daily gets the bus, its going to cost the tax payer more than Ian Duncan Smith's breakfast.

I was under the impression that travel expenses for signing on weren't re-imbursed. Therefore no impact on the tax payer - but a significant impact on those jobseekers who do not live close to a job centre and therefore have to spend quite a lot of money travelling daily on benefits.