Bought faulty car from trader on autotradr

motorguy

sharp910sh wrote: »

I agree. Well Ive taken the car to his approved garage. I hope they just fix it. I know where the guy lives. If he doesnt fix it ill ask for a refund.

No reason why he wont if its one of the faults you've told him about.

I am sure its just a fuse or something simple, but yes if they cant fix it, then you would be pushing for a replacement identical car (unlikely they will source one) or a refund.

Cant see it getting to that though

nobbysn*ts

motorguy wrote: »

Yes. If its fitted to the car it should be working.

The caveat to that would be if he had written on the invoice otherwise.

The old trick of writing it on the invoice after taking the money? Doesn't count, if it was advertised with it, sold with it, merely tagging the caveat on the bottom of the invoice won't ever stand up. If it was advertised without it, made quite clear it wasn't working, and the customer signed to that as part of the purchase he knew he was making then the dealer would have a case he had actually made the customer aware beforehand. Not in this case, even if the op does find it has miraculously appeared in the small print.

motorguy

nobbysn*ts wrote: »

The old trick of writing it on the invoice after taking the money? Doesn't count, if it was advertised with it, sold with it, merely tagging the caveat on the bottom of the invoice won't ever stand up. If it was advertised without it, made quite clear it wasn't working, and the customer signed to that as part of the purchase he knew he was making then the dealer would have a case he had actually made the customer aware beforehand. Not in this case, even if the op does find it has miraculously appeared in the small print.

*sigh*

No, i meant in the context of it had been noted as not working by the seller and the buyer, put on the invoice and the customer had signed it. Even if it had been pointed out by the seller as not working, but not documented, the O/P would have recourse to get it repaired.

Clearly thats not the case here.

nobbysn*ts

As you say *sigh*. But at least you agree with the facts, and the rights of the customer, as we all said at the start.

arcon5

27col wrote: »

If it helps, I can honestly say that in 58 years of motoring, I have never had any problem with supermarket fuel, either petrol or diesel. There, now someone has posted on the subject.

Used to work for a cab company and many drivers filled up at tesco to get the points on their own tesco club card - so between day and night driver fuel easily hit £200-£300 per week per car and I can also say nothing was ever known to have happened as a result of the fuel. And since many of these cars are easily pulling in 80-100k miles per year you'd be quick to know.

motorguy

nobbysn*ts wrote: »

as we all said at the start.

As "we" all said at the start? :rotfl:

Your first post on this subject was yesterday afternoon to have a pop at me and every post you've put since for that matter.

motorguy

nobbysn*ts wrote: »

at least you agree with the facts, and the rights of the customer

As always. Its a shame its taken you so long to work that out.

motorguy

arcon5 wrote: »

Used to work for a cab company and many drivers filled up at tesco to get the points on their own tesco club card - so between day and night driver fuel easily hit £200-£300 per week per car and I can also say nothing was ever known to have happened as a result of the fuel. And since many of these cars are easily pulling in 80-100k miles per year you'd be quick to know.

I would use Tesco fuel more if it wasnt so expensive in our area. Always a few pence dearer than ASDA.

No issues with supermarket fuel though - i've been keeping a spreadsheet of MPG over each fill since i got my golf last august and over those 17,000 miles theres no discernable difference in fuel economy or power between brands - and thats included many fills from some of the big brands too

musafir05

motorguy wrote: »

And for clarification i was using that particular report to back up what i already knew - and others have added that their experience and understanding shows a similar view. And Colinos stats show an even better picture.

Still waiting for your stats on "most dealers not standing over their cars"?

Looking forward to that. :cool:

Search Google and you will land on variety of stories of doggy dealers. A doggy dealer will not openly admit of wrong doing in a official report and jeopardise his business and earning. Recently there was a story in Southampton of a small-time car seller by the name of Stan Rudgley selling faulty vehicles and refusing to repair when problems arose. He is under investigation by trading standards because the public took a stand against him. There are many dealers like him who go unreported because customers accept there fate and repair cars themselves or there voices aren't heard by official bodies.

motorguy

musafir05 wrote: »

Search Google and you will land on variety of stories of doggy dealers. A doggy dealer will not openly admit of wrong doing in a official report and jeopardise his business and earning.

It was customers who were sampled, not dealers.

musafir05 wrote: »

Recently there was a story in Southampton of a small-time car seller by the name of Stan Rudgley selling faulty vehicles and refusing to repair when problems arose. He is under investigation by trading standards because the public took a stand against him. There are many dealers like him who go unreported because customers accept there fate and repair cars themselves or there voices aren't heard by official bodies.

Its good to hear of rogue dealers being investigated.

However, again, out of 3.6 million used car purchases from dealers each year, can you show ANY evidence that "most" dont stand over their cars - which is what you originally said?