UKPC Scotland Sheriffs Office Call

redrose59

A family members vehicle received a parking charge in October 2013 at a retail park in Scotland. It was first 2 hours free and the vehicle was parked for less time than that.
After looking on MSE and taking the advice all correspondence was ignored. The usual stream of letters were received as others have catalogued on these forums.
At the end of last week a message was left via telephone saying that it was important that the RK returned the call that day and the person stated they were from the Sheriffs Office. The message was not heard that day so the call was not returned.
Today there has been another phone call in which the "gentleman" stated that he was from Gordon & Noble and had been told by the company (I assume he was referring to UKPC) to "sue" the RK straight away. However he had said to them to give some more time for payment to be made!!
He said that legislation had changed in Scotland on April 1st 2014 and now the RK will be taken to court even if the amount is less than £200. He also stated that if advice was saught from CAB or a Lawyer that they would advise to ignore the charge but they would be incorrect as legislation had changed. He said that the "Government" were putting pressure on the parking company's to collect all these unpaid charges as they ( the Government) get a percentage and that's why legislation was changed.
Towards the end of the phone call he asked if the family member had a debit or credit card they could pay with as they had until the end of the week.
So, has the legislation changed? Would they be able to enforce this "new legislation" retrospectively as the charge was almost 6 months ago?
Is this just the usual ramping up of pressure?
Many thanks for all advice.

pogofish

redrose59 wrote: »

He said that legislation had changed in Scotland on April 1st 2014 and now the RK will be taken to court even if the amount is less than £200. He also stated that if advice was saught from CAB or a Lawyer that they would advise to ignore the charge but they would be incorrect as legislation had changed. He said that the "Government" were putting pressure on the parking company's to collect all these unpaid charges as they ( the Government) get a percentage and that's why legislation was changed. was almost 6 months ago?

Did he really say that? :eek:

If so, then various levels of complaint are in order as it is fraudulent twaddle.

Otherwise - read this thread from just the other day, all the important info for Scotland is laid-out for you. Esp this:

bod1467 wrote: »

Gordon & Noble have as much authority to take money from you as Barnes & Noble.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4943832

bazster

It's a colossal pack of lies.

redrose59

Yes, he did say that. Oh, he also said it is now the RK and not the driver in Scotland who is now responsible.

esmerobbo

Even if new legislation came into force on 1st April (April fools day;))2014 it would not be retrospective. I would suggest this person has a big nose, which grew considerably during your conversation.

pogofish

redrose59 wrote: »

Yes, he did say that. Oh, he also said it is now the RK and not the driver in Scotland who is now responsible.

I pray you recorded this - We could crucify the deluded bullsh!tters with it!

bod1467

I'm tempted to send this via their Contact Us form.

Why are your debt collectors telling lies when trying to collect outstanding speculative invoices (parking charge notices) from vehicle registered keepers? Example:

"Today there has been another phone call in which the "gentleman" stated that he was from Gordon & Noble and had been told by the company (I assume he was referring to UKPC) to "sue" the RK straight away. However he had said to them to give some more time for payment to be made!!
He said that legislation had changed in Scotland on April 1st 2014 and now the RK will be taken to court even if the amount is less than £200. He also stated that if advice was saught from CAB or a Lawyer that they would advise to ignore the charge but they would be incorrect as legislation had changed. He said that the "Government" were putting pressure on the parking company's to collect all these unpaid charges as they ( the Government) get a percentage and that's why legislation was changed"

This is complete and utter bollox! It is LIES! Your company could be in line for serious censure for conducting such fraudulent activity!

Edit - I have sent it, and used my general SPAM email account for contact.

Stroma

When they call back next, ask them specifically which legislation has changed to make Registered Keepers liable, tell them for training purposes this phone call is being recorded

When they hang up because they can't answer you, it will confirm that what they are saying is a pack of lies.

da_rule

There's been a few posts recently with 'Sheriffs Officers' calling people in Scotland giving false and misleading information. The claims seem to be getting more outlandish.

I just contacted a sheriffs office in Scotland on behalf of friend who is also being pursued (for a non-parking related matter) and I asked them about this 'change' in legislation. They said they were unaware of it.

da_rule

I've just noticed that the company I called was the same the one in this post. I only scanned the thread before posting, sorry.

My friend is being pursued for a gym (in Scotland) membership he forgot to cancel. They are threatening action through the Scottish courts even though the membership agreement clearly states that it is subject to the laws of England and Wales. They really don't know what they are doing.

Iceweasel

IMHO this Gordon & Noble stuff amounts to criminal deception.

Anyone getting such calls should ask for them to put it in writing asap so that it can be 'dealt with'.

If we can lay hands on a letter saying what the OP has reported then we have the lying b'stards good and proper.