Anyone else on a diet and struggling?

MrSmartprice

Tink2 wrote: »

Tomato has sugar in so of course pizza topping will have sugar in, unless the sauce isn't a tomato one

There is no added sugar in tinned tomatoes, nor in passata which is ideal for pizzas. There is some natural sugar, but according to a tin in our pantry it is only 2.8g per 100g. It also says 19kcal per 100g. So quite a healthy thing to eat.

Prepared tomato sauces are quite different, of course, often being crammed full of sugar, salt and other rubbish. We never buy such things, as besides the junk in them they always taste 'artificial'.

paulineb_2

I also remember watching this when I was beginning to lose weight around a year ago, I found it interesting, I think its well worth a watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSm1dWjMGeM

Indie_Kid

paulineb wrote: »

I know you are counting everything you eat but many people who are overweight are in denial and probably eat 1000 plus more cals than they think they are eating every day.

The programme Secret Eaters highlighted this. There was someone who drank, what to me is a lot of alcohol, (I will normally have a bottle of cider / 1-2 pints on a night out and then soft drinks the rest of the evening) and didn't count the calories in alcohol.

Tink2

paulineb wrote: »

To be honest, I cant remember what the programme was, it was something I watched on youtube. A series about weight loss and they had two friends, one who was overweight and one who was underweight and the underweight one was like, oh I can eat what I like, cakes, crisps, dont put on weight at all and the overweight one was like I hardly eat anything and Im overweight

They tracked their calories, if Im right they used a drink, water with something added, they both drank it and they were able to track how many cals they had eaten and guess what? The heavy woman underestimated her calories and the underweight one overestimated her calories.

I know you are counting everything you eat but many people who are overweight are in denial and probably eat 1000 plus more cals than they think they are eating every day.

Oh yeah I know people over and under estimate all the time, it was the reason I decided to count calories

paulineb wrote: »

This is the programme I was talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl2aWt44e6o

paulineb wrote: »

I also remember watching this when I was beginning to lose weight around a year ago, I found it interesting, I think its well worth a watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSm1dWjMGeM

Thanks, will give them both a watch

paulineb_2

Tink2 wrote: »

Sugar is not the problem, it's calories!

Has anyone watched the supersize v super skinny show? 99% of the time the skinny person will be eating sugar and the fat person eating fat, the skinny person isn't eating enough calories and the fat person eats too many

The one that sticks in my mind was a skinny kick boxer who drank 8-9 full size full sugar energy drinks and had one small meal a day, the fat person on the show had fatty greasy food

If someone is eating more calories than they need they will gain weight, doesn't matter what they are eating, look at Michael phelps diet, it's full of sugar AND fat, he eats massive amounts of calories yet he works off the excess calories in his training

My OH eats low sugar nothing, he used to literally pore sugar in his tea, he could go through a bag a week! but his fat is low, he always chooses the tomatoey based sauces rather than the creamy ones and he hates mayo yet he's never been fat, in fact he's lost weight (going from 14 stone to 12 stone 1 despite not having low sugar anything) I've always been a fan of higher fat, always preferring a greasy burger over a cake, i always pick the higher fat sauces and i love mayo, I always drink the no sugar versions of drinks and I don't take sugar in tea, my dad was the same, loved high fat things and he was fat, he cut down on the fatty things and lost 5 stone!

Some find cutting fat easier, some find cutting carbs easier, whatever works for the individual, personally I find cutting fat easier as I get more food for the calories I've set myself

We watched a program the other day, it was a program about low fat foods, there was a "expert" who said you shouldn't be able to call a food low fat if its high in sugar, my OH disagree with this because a low fat food means it's low in fat nothing to do with the sugar, they were also claiming low fat foods have extra sugar added, this is inaccurate, they don't add extra sugar per se, it's a by product of having less fat, when you have less fat in a product it automatically has more protien and carbs (if it had protien and carbs in the original product) for example milk, they don't add extra sugar to skimmed milk, when you take the fat out you have more of the carbs and protien left, they failed to understand this simple fact

I can understand why someone would want to have a full fat coke over a diet coke or butter instead of low fat spread.

Low sugar products can actually make people gain weight, because lets say you drink 5 diet cokes, your brain thinks hang on, Im drinking something sweet, but theres hardly any cals in it.

It might actually make people crave more and not less sweet foods.

The thing about fat is, it gets demonised. So many people cut fat out of their diet when slimming. I know someone who wasnt fat by any means but just could not lose weight. I asked her what she ate and she said something like cereal, a sandwich for lunch and a low fat meal at night.

I put something on my facebook about having one of those nakd bars and I think there were maybe 3 grammes of fat in it. I got a lecture about eating that because it was high in fat.

Certain types of fat are good for us. We are supposed to eat a certain amount of polyunsaturated, saturated and monosaturated fat every day.

Its how you eat it that matters. Theres a difference between some peanut butter and a cake and an avocado and a bag of chips.

There are so many myths about what we should be eating that people latch onto and it doesnt help. Replacing high cal foods with light alternatives might be the answer for the diet industry, but its not always worth the cals saved, which might be very little anyway.

Tink2

paulineb wrote: »

I can understand why someone would want to have a full fat coke over a diet coke or butter instead of low fat spread.

Low sugar products can actually make people gain weight, because lets say you drink 5 diet cokes, your brain thinks hang on, Im drinking something sweet, but theres hardly any cals in it.

It might actually make people crave more and not less sweet foods.

The thing about fat is, it gets demonised. So many people cut fat out of their diet when slimming. I know someone who wasnt fat by any means but just could not lose weight. I asked her what she ate and she said something like cereal, a sandwich for lunch and a low fat meal at night.

I put something on my facebook about having one of those nakd bars and I think there were maybe 3 grammes of fat in it. I got a lecture about eating that because it was high in fat.

Certain types of fat are good for us. We are supposed to eat a certain amount of polyunsaturated, saturated and monosaturated fat every day.

Its how you eat it that matters. Theres a difference between some peanut butter and a cake and an avocado and a bag of chips.

There are so many myths about what we should be eating that people latch onto and it doesnt help. Replacing high cal foods with light alternatives might be the answer for the diet industry, but its not always worth the cals saved, which might be very little anyway.

I've saved a lot from switching to lighter than light mayo

And I usually find if I have a can of Pepsi max is sorts out my sweet craving and it doesn't give me heartburn unlike something like full sugar coke

Lets_say

I know I can lose weight by calorie counting so I will stick with it, no one is going to convince me to go low carb/high fat[/QUOTE]

You may well eventually reach your target weight by calorie counting Tinks, but until you educate your palate, I seriously doubt you will be able to stay at your target.

paulineb_2

I think really we can spent a long time on diets thinking, I cant have this and I cant have that because its bad for me, when its actually not bad for us at all.

There are so many foods I'll eat now that I wouldnt have eaten a couple of years ago, its very easy to get stuck in a food rut.

I think some advice given out by certain companies, Im pretty sure the british heart foundation has been criticised for the way it views fat, it doesnt help.

Certain types of fat are bad for us and too much of certain types of fat are bad for us. But fat is not bad for us full stop.

paulineb_2

Tink2 wrote: »

I've saved a lot from switching to lighter than light mayo

And I usually find if I have a can of Pepsi max is sorts out my sweet craving and it doesn't give me heartburn unlike something like full sugar coke

But health wise, you might be better having less of the full fat mayo and less of the lighter than light mayo. Or look for alternatives.

Its whats added to all the light or "lite" products to cut calories that might be a concern.

I actually shudder at how much diet drinks I used to consume. I dont drink any now, havent for a few years and dont miss it at all.

paulineb_2

I havent posted the links I said I would, I'll do it tomorrow. One site that I really like is one called mouthwatering vegan, shes got loads of savoury and sweet recipes.

Also, soup can be a lifesaver when you are trying to lose weight, I bought a hand blender for 6 quid, made a lot of soup over the last year, if you blend soup you dont need lentils to bulk it out, you can make a lot of very low cal and nutritious soup and its a good way to use up leftovers as well.

In one of the YT links I posted there they talk about soup and how it can help people lose weight.