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  • Quasar
    Quasar Posts: 121,720 Forumite
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    Tink2 wrote: »
    Tomato has sugar in so of course pizza topping will have sugar in, unless the sauce isn't a tomato one

    Tink, the sugar in tomato is naturally bound to other substances inherent in the fruit (tomatoes are fruits). The sugar listed in ingredient labels is ADDED sugar, just as the oils etc.

    You aren't doing yourself any favours by denying the obvious: you eat far too much stuff with added refined sugars and transfats. Calorie counting or not, these items are harmful in the amounts you eat them.
    Be careful who you open up to. Today it's ears, tomorrow it's mouth.
  • Tink2
    Tink2 Posts: 2,666 Forumite
    Quasar wrote: »
    Tink, the sugar in tomato is naturally bound to other substances inherent in the fruit (tomatoes are fruits). The sugar listed in ingredient labels is ADDED sugar, just as the oils etc.

    You aren't doing yourself any favours by denying the obvious: you eat far too much stuff with added refined sugars and transfats. Calorie counting or not, these items are harmful in the amount you eat them.

    Again, I'm purely calorie counting

    ETA: they aren't listed in the ingredients but they are added to the sugar content listed in the nutrition table of said product
  • I've decided to start Slimming World again Monday seeing as i've got all the books & stuff so fingers crossed it starts working again. I'll post my food diary on here everyday if that's ok & any losses should I have them. :rotfl:
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  • Quasar
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    Tink2 wrote: »
    Again, I'm purely calorie counting

    And again, eating a low calorie diet that contains harmful additives such as refined sugar and transfats is not going to help you stay healthy, which is what you need most when trying to lose weight.

    Over to you as you obviously won't listen.
    Be careful who you open up to. Today it's ears, tomorrow it's mouth.
  • Linda_D_2
    Linda_D_2 Posts: 1,891 Forumite
    Tink2 wrote: »
    Very nice, got enough for seconds

    Go for it! Enjoy those fish n chips n mayo, you deserve it.
  • Tink2
    Tink2 Posts: 2,666 Forumite
    I've decided to start Slimming World again Monday seeing as i've got all the books & stuff so fingers crossed it starts working again. I'll post my food diary on here everyday if that's ok & any losses should I have them. :rotfl:

    Please do and good luck
    Quasar wrote: »
    And again, eating a low calorie diet that contains harmful additives such as refined sugar and transfats is not going to help you stay healthy, which is what you need most when trying to lose weight.

    Over to you as you obviously won't listen.


    I know I can lose weight by calorie counting so I will stick with it, no one is going to convince me to go low carb/high fat
  • ~Chameleon~
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    Quasar wrote: »
    And again, eating a low calorie diet that contains harmful additives such as refined sugar and transfats is not going to help you stay healthy, which is what you need most when trying to lose weight.

    Over to you as you obviously won't listen.

    Flogging a dead horse springs to mind.
    “You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”
  • paulineb_2
    paulineb_2 Posts: 6,489 Forumite
    Tink2 wrote: »
    Sugar is not the problem, it's calories!

    Has anyone watched the supersize v super skinny show? 99% of the time the skinny person will be eating sugar and the fat person eating fat, the skinny person isn't eating enough calories and the fat person eats too many

    The one that sticks in my mind was a skinny kick boxer who drank 8-9 full size full sugar energy drinks and had one small meal a day, the fat person on the show had fatty greasy food

    If someone is eating more calories than they need they will gain weight, doesn't matter what they are eating, look at Michael phelps diet, it's full of sugar AND fat, he eats massive amounts of calories yet he works off the excess calories in his training

    My OH eats low sugar nothing, he used to literally pore sugar in his tea, he could go through a bag a week! but his fat is low, he always chooses the tomatoey based sauces rather than the creamy ones and he hates mayo yet he's never been fat, in fact he's lost weight (going from 14 stone to 12 stone 1 despite not having low sugar anything) I've always been a fan of higher fat, always preferring a greasy burger over a cake, i always pick the higher fat sauces and i love mayo, I always drink the no sugar versions of drinks and I don't take sugar in tea, my dad was the same, loved high fat things and he was fat, he cut down on the fatty things and lost 5 stone!

    Some find cutting fat easier, some find cutting carbs easier, whatever works for the individual, personally I find cutting fat easier as I get more food for the calories I've set myself

    We watched a program the other day, it was a program about low fat foods, there was a "expert" who said you shouldn't be able to call a food low fat if its high in sugar, my OH disagree with this because a low fat food means it's low in fat nothing to do with the sugar, they were also claiming low fat foods have extra sugar added, this is inaccurate, they don't add extra sugar per se, it's a by product of having less fat, when you have less fat in a product it automatically has more protien and carbs (if it had protien and carbs in the original product) for example milk, they don't add extra sugar to skimmed milk, when you take the fat out you have more of the carbs and protien left, they failed to understand this simple fact

    To be honest, I cant remember what the programme was, it was something I watched on youtube. A series about weight loss and they had two friends, one who was overweight and one who was underweight and the underweight one was like, oh I can eat what I like, cakes, crisps, dont put on weight at all and the overweight one was like I hardly eat anything and Im overweight

    They tracked their calories, if Im right they used a drink, water with something added, they both drank it and they were able to track how many cals they had eaten and guess what? The heavy woman underestimated her calories and the underweight one overestimated her calories.

    I know you are counting everything you eat but many people who are overweight are in denial and probably eat 1000 plus more cals than they think they are eating every day.
  • paulineb_2
    paulineb_2 Posts: 6,489 Forumite
    This is the programme I was talking about

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl2aWt44e6o
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