IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

PCN PArking Services / Roxburghe appeal

Options
I need your advice here. I work in a hospital and have a valid permit. Due to construction work, the number of parking spaces has reduced, with no alternative arrangements in place.

I received 2 tickets:

1) Issued on 20/1/14 in a car park which allegedly I'm not allowed to park. But at the time of issue of permits, I was not told which car parks am I allowed to park and which I'm not. It's not colour coded at all. The entrance to that car park says: "No entry for visitors beyond this point" There are 4 signs stating "For Neurosciences only", which I assumed was for that particular bay the sign was in front of. I avoided those bays.

2) Issued on 22/1/14 when I was parked off street (I ensured there was no obstruction to traffic).

I received a rejection response to my appeal for 1) around 10 days ago, and I am in the process of a second appeal.

I never received a response to my appeal for 2)

Today, I received 2 letters from Roxburghe demanding payment of £98 each for the above two.

I called Roxburghe up. Basically, this is what they've said:

I had 28 days to appeal to POPLA which has now elapsed (despite me pointing out that I received the rejection letter only 10 days ago). So I should pay up.

They asked me to email them my original appeal for them to consider and decide. They accepted on the phone that they received my appeal but no response was sent for 2).

What should I do next? :(
«1345678

Comments

  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    You have 28 days from a the rejection of the appeal to go to popla, did they supply a popla verification code? Did you appeal the second one ? If you could supply a few details for each one

    Date of parking
    Date of NtK
    Date of rejection
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • big_boss
    big_boss Posts: 88 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    Here are the details:

    1) Date of parking ticket issued 20/1/14

    Date on the letter of rejection of my appeal: 12/3/14 (received about 10 days ago)

    Date on the letter from Roxburghe: 31/3/14 (received today)

    2) Date of parking ticket issued 22/01/14

    No letter received regarding rejection

    Date on the letter from Roxburghe: 31/3/14 (received today)

    No POPLA verification code received for either.
  • big_boss
    big_boss Posts: 88 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    Just been on the phone to Roxburghe. Interestingly, my hospital's car park isn't part of BPA, even though letter from PaymyPCN.net clearly shows "BPA Approved Operator" in its letterhead!

    So I have no means to go to POPLA, according to Roxburghe!!

    What should I do next?
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Ignore them, and make complaints to the dvla about roxburghe getting RK details for a non aos parking company. But please supply who exactly gave you this ticket. Paymypcn is part of roxburghe , so stop phoning these vermin all they are interested in is your money
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • big_boss
    big_boss Posts: 88 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    So I spoke to Roxburghe again, to clarify. Basically, they say that my hospital's car park isn't under BPA but have instructed the admin work to PCN Parking Services, which is under BPA. But as the hospital car park itself isn't under BPA, I cannot appeal to POPLA!! How does that work??
  • big_boss
    big_boss Posts: 88 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    Thanks Stroma! Just to clarify; I appealed to the PCN, so they may have received my details from my letter. Can I still complain to DVLA?
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    edited 3 April 2014 at 5:22PM
    I would complain to them, also to the bpa as well as roxburghe are part of scammers central.

    And please stop calling these people all want is to take to take money off you, they are not interested in any excuses you have.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • big_boss
    big_boss Posts: 88 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    Thanks, so should I copy the letter to my hospital as well as PCN Parking Services?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,153 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    If you cannot find them here:

    http://www.theipc.info/#!aos-members/cv75

    or here:

    http://www.britishparking.co.uk/Approved-Operators

    ...and if on the PPC's website, there is no BPA or IPC logo or anything about independent appeal...then they could never have got your address. Why would you appeal to the windscreen ticket of a non-AOS member and give them your address and presumably tell them who was driving, to boot?

    Whoops...should never have appealed if so. Junk mail will be the bain of your life now for months if there is no POPLA or IPC appeal available with this lot.

    Please tell us the full name of the company and have a look on their website and on the ticket and click on the links, to find out if they are AOS members of either of the PPC Trade bodies (aka old boys clubs).
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • big_boss
    big_boss Posts: 88 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    I wouldn't have known the status of AOS membership. I work in the hospital, so I thought it will be cancelled easily as in other hospitals I've worked in.

    The company's full name and address is

    PCN Parking Services
    PO Box 465
    West Byfleet
    Surrey KT14 9BS

    http://paymypcn.net

    On their letterhead, they've prominently displayed BPA as well as IPC logo, but I can't see their name on the list of either. Isn't that illegal?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.1K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.6K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177K Life & Family
  • 257.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.