Childcare worker's behaviour outside work?

ecgirl07

poet123 wrote: »

I disagree completely. I think that if you work with children and expect parents to trust their child with you then your behaviour with your own children should be beyond reproach in public. It does reflect on your skills if you cannot control a child without resorting to abuse and foul language. It also reflects on your employers because it calls into question their judgement in employing someone who behaves that way.

Nope we're paid for a 37 hour week and what we do outside of work is as little of your business as what you do outside of your work mine.

Mojisola

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

Regarding the woman, it sounds to me like shes got an anger problem which may be due to mental health issues like depression or bi polar or something elce.

I'd just pass the leaflets on and say that you saw the woman and that she was upset and carrying on and she may find this helpfull.

So rather than describe objectively to her employer how she behaved in one situation, you'd give her boss your assessment of her employee's serious health issues along with a few leaflets?

I don't know whether to :rotfl: or :eek:

poet123

ecgirl07 wrote: »

Nope we're paid for a 37 hour week and what we do outside of work is as little of your business as what you do outside of your work mine.

No, it really isn't when what you are doing could bring your employer into disrepute. There is a clause in many contracts to reflect that. That is why things posted on FB often have repercussions.

If you work with children and are seen by others to be behaving badly in their presence then it is not acceptable.

LannieDuck

IrishRose12 wrote: »

Not to be rude but those of us who work in education/childcare sector don't have to be as good as gold every minute of the day. We are allowed to let of steam and we are allowed to live our own lives outside of the job [...] We are also allowed to smoke, drink, we are allowed to curse, and we are allowed to say whatever we want to our own children.

Yes, you are. And I'm allowed to tell the nursery that I don't want you minding my kids.

dandelionclock30

Mojisola wrote: »

So rather than describe objectively to her employer how she behaved in one situation, you'd give her boss your assessment of her employee's serious health issues along with a few leaflets?

I don't know whether to :rotfl: or :eek:

At the end of the day the employer cant do sweet diddly squat anyway, thats the reality.Even if you explained all what happened absolutley nothing would be done. At least the woman would then know where to go for help if she wanted it, if you gave some information.

Carmina-Piranha_2

ecgirl07 wrote: »

Nope we're paid for a 37 hour week and what we do outside of work is as little of your business as what you do outside of your work mine.

Smoking, drinking, etc. fair enough, but a person who would describe a three year old as an effing psycho should not be in the sort of job where she has influence on 3 year olds.

IrishRose12

I wonder did anyone actually read in my post where I said that the woman in question was out of order, before they decided that I'm not allowed to do what I want outside of work.

It says NO-WHERE in my contract that I have to be fake or nice to people outside of my workplace.
I have children of my own, there are a hell of a lot of things that they are not allowed to do, they are punished and I do shout/yell at them, sometimes swear at them when I need/want to.

I don't do this in work though, because you are not allowed to and I wouldn't want to as they are not my children. My children are brought up the way many of us were brought up a decade/2 decades ago and more ago. They are brought up in a strict loving home, they have rules and they know what discipline is. They are not brought up the way most children are these days where they are allowed to run mad, they get away with murder, and they know how to respect their elders and others around them.

I pride myself in being able to be professional in work where I have parents coming in to me saying little jimmy hurt my child's feelings yesterday, or when we are subjected to abuse when parents are told they have to do something or their children are not allowed to do something.
I am actually at the moment working with one of my niece's (hubby's sister's daughter) but she doesn't know we're related as me and my husband don't speak to her parents after a huge fall-out. But no matter what my feelings about them are, I remain professional in the workplace and pass pleasantries when I need to.

As I said, just because this girl was out of order to you and your friend outside of working hours, does not mean that she is like this in the workplace. I' pretty sure if she was, she wouldn't be allowed to work with children.
Someone else on here questioned you OP and I may have missed the answer so I hope you don't mind me asking again. Are you absolutely sure the girl who shouted abuse to you is the same one who works in the nursery?
If you do decide to go to the nursery - which again they can't do anything about as it was outside working hours obviously. - but just ensure it was infact that girl, for all you know it may have been a sister/twin/cousin. Or someone who just looks like her.
We have 2 parents in our class this year who are a spit of each other yet there is no relation whatsoever.
We also have a child in our class now who is a double of a past pupil, you would swear blind they were sisters, yet they are no relation either. So just make sure it was definitely her before raising your concerns.
But also be aware that the nursery may just think you have something against the woman (which you have every right to have) and just think you are trying to cause trouble. That's been known to happen also.

Valli

IrishRose12 wrote: »

We do have our own lives outside of the workplace, and our actions shouldn't reflect on our workplace. If it was inside school then yes, but in our own, free personal time we can dance up and down the street naked if we wanted to!

I suggest you actually try that - because after you have been charged with causing a breach of the peace or indecent exposure you might find yourself rapidly presented with a P45!

meritaten

I suggest that you read your contract again IrishRose, because although my OH works for a Utility company, his contract states that any conduct of his which brings his company into 'disrepute' is a sackable offence. and this is standard in an employment contract.

Carmina-Piranha_2

There are other ways of having rules and discipline without yelling and swearing. Even if you say you don't behave like this at work, what about your tone of voice and facial expression? Yelling and swearing indicates an inability to control your temper.

A parenting course such as Webster-Stratton might help.

EDIT: I just re-read that and it sounds really rude! I've been on a Webster-Stratton course and it really helped me.