Future Car Values (Dacia)

andrewf75

A_Flock_Of_Sheep wrote: »

I guess I ways look to how sellable a car is when it's time for me to upgrade. I just can't see a Dacia as something folk would be after. I imagine they would depreciate quite rapidly after 1 year?

They might be a novelty in the UK but anyone who travels elsewhere in Europe will see how popular these cars are. Its a budget car which won't be to everyones taste but plenty of folk will be after them for sure.

Herzlos

motorguy wrote: »

Also i think Dacia dont aim to be an object of desire, they aim to be functional and cheap, and with starting prices roughly half that of a Polo, i think they've succeeded.

Exactly, and with a pick-up version of the Duster coming soon as well I can see them being of interest to people who need a cheap workhorse that'll not necessarily make it onto roads (farms, work yards, quarries) etc and trim and features aren't regarded as very important. In the same way a lot of places are replacing Toyota/Nissan pick-ups with Great Walls - they do the same job for half the price.

The only thing I'm wary of is the small engine - the 1.5dCI with 105bhp isn't really a work horse.

motorguy

A_Flock_Of_Sheep wrote: »

Touche about the mint. But polos are sweet

I guess I ways look to how sellable a car is when it's time for me to upgrade. I just can't see a Dacia as something folk would be after. I imagine they would depreciate quite rapidly after 1 year?

I guess I am speaking from my own point of view though as for 2nd hand I'd look for a decent Audi or VW or merc. Maybe even a Vauxhall or CMax

Yes. I think its easier to "defend" the Sandero or even the Stepway as they are so cheap new. The Duster - well maybe the entry level ones, but £15K? Sounds like a lot when as you say you can buy a lot of other metal for your money.

I "guess" if you bought a Sandero for £7K ish with the essential options then at four years old its probably still going to look like good value at say £2.5K compared to what that same money buys you elsewhere.

I'm guessing though that a lot of Dacia buyers will probably just drive on at them until they are worn out.

Theres a lot of Sanderos and Stepways about so i guess they do hold appeal.

I quite like the chunky styling of the Duster but i dont think i'd ever part with £15K of my own hard earned to own one.

Having said that, they're offering some cracking finance deals on them...

Interestingly there hasnt been the jokes that plagued early skodas and they do like quite inoffensive, so i imagine they will continue to do quite well.

motorguy

From memory you can buy a new Sandero for £99 a month.

That must hold a lot of appeal to people who are perhaps spending that on the upkeep of some old banger - worry free motoring?

Stoke

motorguy wrote: »

From memory you can buy a new Sandero for £99 a month.

That must hold a lot of appeal to people who are perhaps spending that on the upkeep of some old banger - worry free motoring?

But as I've pointed out above, is it worry free motoring? My friend who actually owns one has already had to take it back due to rust issues that are visible, which has us both wondering what's going on where you can't see.

I have no idea if they're reliable but I don't have much time for Renault, my brother in law's Megane was always breaking down and these are binned off parts?

sinbad182

Stoke wrote: »

Of course it's a million miles superior to my heap of junk death trap and I've never doubted that. You are pretentious, and you are a snob and I'm merely highlighting that. You clearly think that any car older than yours is a heap of junk death trap. You made your feelings clear in that Manufacturers thread where you basically made comments regarding vehicles older than yours. I'm not the only person on this board that drives an older car. Not all of us can afford a new one.

Unfortunately my friend, I don't get the opportunity to buy a company car. My company pay me mileage only (albeit well over what I actually pay for fuel), so the vehicle I drive is up to me. If I could buy a new company car at 'well-below' market value then of course I'd be in something newer you wally. As such, I'm a young professional, I have to be careful with money and my vehicle is representative of what I can afford juxtaposed with reliability, fuel economy, ease of maintenance (knowledge of car), and comfort (yes, it's a surprisingly comfortable car).

You could be in a Dacia Sandero? You wouldn't be seen dead on one you pretentious clown. You've quite clearly got a massive superiority complex regarding your car and that comes through in the majority of threads.

Oh... and by the way, the interior, exterior, engine etc on my Lupo is a million times better made than my mates Dacia Sandero, he'll quite happily admit that.

I don't think I'm an expert on most things motoring, but I'm someone who does a LOT of miles (more than you???), I'm young, I'm money sensible and yes, I'm a working professional, so I would consider myself in a half decent position to give an opinion yes. Doesn't make me an expert, but you don't have to be an expert to give an opinion my friend.

You're not making any sense son.

You keep saying I'm a pretentious snob due to the car I drive - not sure how this works when we've literally just discussed the fact I drive a Vauxhall Insignia. Surely the fact I'm happy driving around such a bland-mobile makes me anything but a pretentious snob?

Again, re. buying a Dacia. I personally wouldn't because I like my creature comforts, but I think they're a great idea and incredible value. They're a million times more acceptable than keeping a past fit-for-purpose banger on the road like half the folk on here seem to pride themselves on.

You say you're a 'young professional' yet you drive a 10+ year old VW Lupo. I don't know any professional, young or otherwise, who would drive something like that. Well done for having a job and driving a knackered old car lots of miles, but that doesn't make you expert on anything other than being someone who inexplicably likes honking a past its sell by date bag of bolts up and down the motorway.

jase1

Stoke wrote: »

But as I've pointed out above, is it worry free motoring? My friend who actually owns one has already had to take it back due to rust issues that are visible, which has us both wondering what's going on where you can't see.

I have no idea if they're reliable but I don't have much time for Renault, my brother in law's Megane was always breaking down and these are binned off parts?

They are not as reliable as most other manufacturers, according to TUV.

However they do make a good case for themselves as an unpretentious cheap runabout, and especially with a 3-year warranty are undeniably less potential hassle than a second-hand car.

However you could have said exactly the same about a 1990s Hyundai and I don't recall people getting excited back then.

I would be no more tempted by a £15K Dacia than I would by a £15K Korean car of 6 or 7 years ago. At £6K, sure, but even then the runout models of the Chevrolet Cruze at £7500 still represent better value for money to my eyes, and that's taking depreciation into account.

Horses for courses though -- there are no bad cars any more and I'm sure the Dacia is perfectly adequate transport -- I just don't see what the fuss is about.

Stoke

sinbad182 wrote: »

You're not making any sense son.

You keep saying I'm a pretentious snob due to the car I drive - not sure how this works when we've literally just discussed the fact I drive a Vauxhall Insignia. Surely the fact I'm happy driving around such a bland-mobile makes me anything but a pretentious snob?

Again, re. buying a Dacia. I personally wouldn't because I like my creature comforts, but I think they're a great idea and incredible value. They're a million times more acceptable than keeping a past fit-for-purpose banger on the road like half the folk on here seem to pride themselves on.

You say you're a 'young professional' yet you drive a 10+ year old VW Lupo. I don't know any professional, young or otherwise, who would drive something like that. Well done for having a job and driving a knackered old car lots of miles, but that doesn't make you expert on anything other than being someone who inexplicably likes honking a past its sell by date bag of bolts up and down the motorway.

Come on mate, be serious. You might not be pretentious about brand but you certainly are about age. Not that I wish for any misfortune but it would be interesting to see how you dealt with a crisis where you perhaps didn't have the money to buy an ex-company car and had to settle for an old 'bag of bolts'. Maybe you'd switch to cycling?

Exactly why are they a million times more acceptable? A car is acceptable so long as it passes it's MOT is it not? Isn't that why we have MOT's? To test whether cars older than three years old are still safe for road use... When I took my Lupo to a garage and got it MOT'd in February, the MOT tester, a qualified mechanic, felt my car was safe and fit-for-purpose. He specifically noted that for a 14 year old car (yup, I've finally revealed it's age), it was incredible that there was NOT A SINGLE ADVISORY WHATSOEVER. Perhaps that's partly as a result of the long motorway drives which keep wear down to a minimum.

I'm a software/hardware engineer. My vehicle does not have any direct impact on the work that I do (other than whether I get there or not). I work on major projects for some huge manufacturers with cutting edge technology, yet have I ever been told that I should turn up in a better car by anyone? Of course not, because the people I work with and for don't think like that. If I was a freaking car salesman then perhaps I could understand your point, but I'm not, so it's completely irrelevant.

Still, I respect your opinion, even though I don't agree with it.

BoracicLint

sinbad182 wrote: »

You say you're a 'young professional' yet you drive a 10+ year old VW Lupo. I don't know any professional, young or otherwise, who would drive something like that. Well done for having a job and driving a knackered old car lots of miles, but that doesn't make you expert on anything other than being someone who inexplicably likes honking a past its sell by date bag of bolts up and down the motorway.

I'm also a 'young professional' who happens to drive a 13 year old Lupo. Future appreciating classic in my opinion :cool:

jimjames

sinbad182 wrote: »

You say you're a 'young professional' yet you drive a 10+ year old VW Lupo. I don't know any professional, young or otherwise, who would drive something like that. Well done for having a job and driving a knackered old car lots of miles, but that doesn't make you expert on anything other than being someone who inexplicably likes honking a past its sell by date bag of bolts up and down the motorway.

Rather a strange viewpoint and totally misleading to judge people's status by their choice of car.

Not wanting to waste money on depreciation and content to have a vehicle that gets from A to B economically is sufficient for some people, check the thread on Bangernomics. I'm in a similar position, could also be described as young professional and could buy a brand new car in cash if I so wished but actually drive a 12 year old car with 240,000 miles on it that cost £750. I drive it for work and have no problems with that either. I'm contrarian in my investments and also in my car choice and find it amusing that it would make anyone think it was all I could afford.

If anything in my experience the person driving the old car is more likely to have money than the one driving the brand new BMW on credit.