Future Car Values (Dacia)

motorguy

Hintza wrote: »

It's taken Kia and Hyundai years to be accepted as mainstream brands.

KIA and Hyundai came here as budget brands though offering cheap cars that felt cheap - and they've moved now into mainstream by offering cars comparable to VW and Ford, and accordingly prices of their offerings have went UP.

DACIA are and will be a budget brand. To go "mainstream" they would be vying with Renault.

jimjames

colino wrote: »

While the brand is still too new to report back real figures, CAP estimated that Dacia would do very well in depreciation terms (I'm sure they quoted 34% of new value at 36 months) and that has contributed to them flying off the forecourts.

I'm not sure 66% depreciation in 3 years really counts as good.

That could make it a good deal to buy at 3 years though.

Stoke

My friend owns a Dacia Sandero and without sounding like a complete jerk, I think it's absolute junk and so does he. He let me take it for a spin and it's not very pleasant. It felt sloppy and lumpy at lower speeds and as it was the n/a petrol model, it had nowhere near enough 'umph' to handle anything above maybe 55-60mph. The trim is seriously cheap and when I say cheap, I mean like cheap compared to an old Punto or Kia. Low quality plastic poorly assembled, it rattles when going down slightly stoney roads.

The whole thing just feels like an afterthought that was thrown together using spare parts and bodged to fit. They weren't working to the nearest mm, rather the nearest inch or perhaps the nearest yard... who knows?

The exterior isn't much better. He only had one choice of colour... white. After just months of ownership, rust has started to appear under the bonnet, quite significantly round the top of the shocks. As you can imagine, it's fairly noticeable with it being a white car. Dacia have agreed to sort this under warranty and he's following that process right now. Speaking of metal, whatever they used is so bloody thin, it could be used as a net curtain. I reckon a strong finger could poke a hole through it. OK, perhaps I'm being cynical, but there is an element of truth to it. Dacia say all their vehicles are galvanized and able to withstand rough climates, however I'm not so sure these will stand up as well as they hope. What with the rust appearing already in visible spots, you have to wonder where it's appearing that isn't visible.

The one thing I will say about Dacia is they're great if you're a bit of a DIY fanatic. To get features such as remote central locking, a radio + speakers, electric windows and a boot light, you have to purchase the better model which is over £800 more! My friend was able to fit all of those features (albeit using aftermarket parts) in one weekend for about £100.

almillar

Being worth 1/3 after 3 years is actually OK! 1/2 would be fantastic, and plenty of cars are nearer 1/4. The wonderful world of depreciation....
Anyway Dacia - people will slag off French cars and tell you not to touch them. I hope these aren't the same people that think Dacias are tough little things, with their Clio parts...
Dacias will benefit from being small, so will depreciate less. But when a second hand buyer comes along and sees a car without air con for example, they'll just go for the far better spec Fiesta or whatever at the same price...

motorguy

jimjames wrote: »

I'm not sure 66% depreciation in 3 years really counts as good.

That could make it a good deal to buy at 3 years though.

Its reasonable - thats "CAP" - Car Auction Price guide - the price the motor trade would expect it to make at a trade auction

34% CAP guide probably equates to a 50% retail price.

motorguy

almillar wrote: »

But when a second hand buyer comes along and sees a car without air con for example, they'll just go for the far better spec Fiesta or whatever at the same price...

But the fiesta wont be the same price will it?

Unless you expect to get a 3 year old fiesta for £3,000?

sinbad182

Stoke wrote: »

My friend owns a Dacia Sandero and without sounding like a complete jerk, I think it's absolute junk and so does he. He let me take it for a spin and it's not very pleasant. It felt sloppy and lumpy at lower speeds and as it was the n/a petrol model, it had nowhere near enough 'umph' to handle anything above maybe 55-60mph. The trim is seriously cheap and when I say cheap, I mean like cheap compared to an old Punto or Kia. Low quality plastic poorly assembled, it rattles when going down slightly stoney roads.

The whole thing just feels like an afterthought that was thrown together using spare parts and bodged to fit. They weren't working to the nearest mm, rather the nearest inch or perhaps the nearest yard... who knows?

The exterior isn't much better. He only had one choice of colour... white. After just months of ownership, rust has started to appear under the bonnet, quite significantly round the top of the shocks. As you can imagine, it's fairly noticeable with it being a white car. Dacia have agreed to sort this under warranty and he's following that process right now. Speaking of metal, whatever they used is so bloody thin, it could be used as a net curtain. I reckon a strong finger could poke a hole through it. OK, perhaps I'm being cynical, but there is an element of truth to it. Dacia say all their vehicles are galvanized and able to withstand rough climates, however I'm not so sure these will stand up as well as they hope. What with the rust appearing already in visible spots, you have to wonder where it's appearing that isn't visible.

The one thing I will say about Dacia is they're great if you're a bit of a DIY fanatic. To get features such as remote central locking, a radio + speakers, electric windows and a boot light, you have to purchase the better model which is over £800 more! My friend was able to fit all of those features (albeit using aftermarket parts) in one weekend for about £100.

If anyone knows about junk motors, its you.

Stoke

sinbad182 wrote: »

If anyone knows about junk motors, its you.

You still haven't told me what car you drive yet?

sinbad182

Stoke wrote: »

You still haven't told me what car you drive yet?

I've mentioend it in numerous threads - a vauxhall insignia

KennethC

Really don't think that I would touch one with a "barge pole" especially as it has a lot of Renault parts in it, if my experience of having owned two Renaults previously is anything to go by. I would imagine that if you are prepared to spend £15k on a motor, why not look for a one year old car with low mileage, at that price I think you could get some interesting wheels. You can still get a three year warranty on them.