Cannot sell house due to Hoarder next door

moneyistooshorttomention

I'm not saying OP can do no wrong. OP didn't realise what the neighbours are like, but then none of us have a crystal ball to see absolutely all facets of any decision.

Personally, I don't even want that crystal ball. I just want to know that every time I make a Major Decision that someone/something else has "thought through" all implications/known all facts and made the best possible decision for me and all I have to do is to implement it.

I fully accept that I have absolutely no way of knowing every single fact that is relevant to any decision I make...hence I find out what facts I can and then have to trust that my Best Interests are being "looked after" for me and that's all any of us can do ultimately.

After all, look at those people who have bought an idyllic "top of ladder" home in idyllic surroundings and are quite convinced that they have got Perfection and then some Darn B**** comes along and decides to put Summat Nasty nearby (delete nuclear power station/airport/windfarm/those who shall not be mentioned because its not politically correct to do so but they have moved themselves in/etc) afterwards. It can happen to anyone...research and plan as they might. There's a modern phrase of "Sh*t Happens" and it sometimes does...

shot_down_in_flames

shot_down_in_flames wrote: »

Ognum - you really do not understand - money does
the bad feedbacks came from further viewers since the original buyer pulled out after seeing the rubbish that only appeared once she had made her offer and we told the neighbour that we had sold.

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Yes - there were windmills and ornaments in the front garden at the time I viewed it but they did not warrant an immediate warning of the horrors that lay within or what would spill out next!..
At points the things you say make sense but at others you seem to want to dig the knife almost like 'told you so' but obviously with no personal connection.

ognum

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

I'm not saying OP can do no wrong. OP didn't realise what the neighbours are like, but then none of us have a crystal ball to see absolutely all facets of any decision.

Personally, I don't even want that crystal ball. I just want to know that every time I make a Major Decision that someone/something else has "thought through" all implications/known all facts and made the best possible decision for me and all I have to do is to implement it.

I fully accept that I have absolutely no way of knowing every single fact that is relevant to any decision I make...hence I find out what facts I can and then have to trust that my Best Interests are being "looked after" for me and that's all any of us can do ultimately.

After all, look at those people who have bought an idyllic "top of ladder" home in idyllic surroundings and are quite convinced that they have got Perfection and then some Darn B**** comes along and decides to put Summat Nasty nearby (delete nuclear power station/airport/windfarm/those who shall not be mentioned because its not politically correct to do so but they have moved themselves in/etc) afterwards. It can happen to anyone...research and plan as they might. There's a modern phrase of "Sh*t Happens" and it sometimes does...

Yes stuff does happen, that why we do searched before we buy, if things come along after that then your right we are stuffed but we have done our due diligence before purchase. If something is a bargain there is a reason, I'm sure you would agree.

I note you have not chosen to reply to the extract I put up from the OPs original post about viewers before and after the sale giving problem neighbour feedback. Why is that?

shot_down_in_flames

ognum wrote: »

I clearly do not understand, you are right. You post clearly says 'before and after the empty sale'

I am glad you have got a sympathetic ear from Money who is clearly giving you the answers you want.

Sometimes being challenged helps us understand, you clearly just want to be stroked and told everything you have done is right and correct and nothing is your responsibility, it is all down to others!

That's fine, it's an open forum those of us who read and try to prevent others from following in your footsteps are clearly being told to back off you only want posts who will walk your road and say you can do no wrong.

This is exactly how you have got in this mess I think, maybe it's time to change, think about it!

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Some of your comments - not exactly advice which is what I originally posted for are of consideration
Your last remarks are clearly offensive, confrontational and patronising.

ognum

shot_down_in_flames wrote: »

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Yes - there were windmills and ornaments in the front garden at the time I viewed it but they did not warrant an immediate warning of the horrors that lay within or what would spill out next!..
At points the things you say make sense but at others you seem to want to dig the knife almost like 'told you so' but obviously with no personal connection.

I am not digging at all, I am merely responding to your posts that suggest this was not your responsibility in any way at all.

All investment have risk that is my point.

ognum

shot_down_in_flames wrote: »

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Some of your comments - not exactly advice which is what I originally posted for are of consideration
Your last remarks are clearly offensive, confrontational and patronising.

Actually they are meant as advice, you have chosen to be over emotional about them and consider them that way.

BigAunty

shot_down_in_flames wrote: »

the bad feedbacks came from further viewers since the original buyer pulled out after seeing the rubbish that only appeared once she had made her offer and we told the neighbour that we had sold.

Do you think the sudden appearance of rubbish was a coincidence, perhaps due to the neighbours running out of space inside?

Or do you think the neighbours were deliberately inspired to jeopardise the sale? For example, do you think the prospect of people living next door to them after a period of it being unoccupied is now unpalatable as they are probably obsessed with privacy, perhaps a bit hermit-like? Or the renovation disturbed them and they want to punish you for the noise or disruption?

That kind of deliberate anti-social stance and spitefulness shown towards you makes me worried about how your greenhouse got broken.

BigAunty

shot_down_in_flames wrote: »

Your last remarks are clearly offensive, confrontational and patronising.

There is an 'ignore' feature on this forum whereby you can suppress posts made by posters so they no longer appear visible to you. I think it's in the 'User CP' banner above the posts.

moneyistooshorttomention

Personally, I simply do not agree with emotions influencing decisions in any shape or form. However, when A.N. Other does something that changes our own personal little life for the worse or threatens to...then I would say it's understandable to get a bit "emotional" about it.

Re the feedback from viewers one way or another...errrm...there was no conscious decision not to respond to this. Its obvious there would be negative feedback about neighbours' rubbish outside. Most viewers would make such comments in those circumstances. I don't quite see why anyone would respond to something that is as obvious as that?

I think possibly "investment" wasn't quite the accurate word to use by OP when describing buying this house.

An "investment" is when someone spends some money on something and is speculating in some way by doing so and taking a risk as to whether that investment will or won't pay off.

So, I personally would regard buying shares, for instance, as a speculative "investment". Those shares might go up or down. Who knows?

But I would think, from what we can see here, that buying this house wasn't something I personally/or many others would describe as an "investment". My own personal stance on that would have been "I've got some money I have to keep safe and make sure it keeps pace with inflation and just how the heck am I supposed to do that? I'm not out to 'make a profit' and only intend to keep what I have already safe...so how am I supposed to do that in current circumstances?".

I have my own views on whether it is or isn't acceptable to protect savings by plunging them into a secondary property....and it is clear that there are pros and cons to that from Society's viewpoint and I acknowledge that there honestly doesn't seem to be a way of protecting hard-earned savings an ordinary person in the street has accumulated from vanishing bit by tiny bit due to lack of appropriate interest on them at present on the one hand v. a personal preference not to use buying property as a way to protect money someone quite legitimately has earned on the other hand.

I don't know the answer to that. I honestly don't. I'm not in that position personally. I have savings I need to protect from being eaten away by inflation/possible Government grabs to bail-in the banks and my own personal method is to spend them as fast as I can manage to on work that needs doing on my present house. If I had a higher amount of money to protect, then I honestly don't know just how I would protect it.

That's how I'm taking OP's comment about "investment" personally, rather than being a wealthy persons Real Investment iyswim so to say.. I may be wrong...but that's my interpretation.

shot_down_in_flames

BigAunty wrote: »

There is an 'ignore' feature on this forum whereby you can suppress posts made by posters so they no longer appear visible to you. I think it's in the 'User CP' banner above the posts.

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That is interesting Big Aunty to know but have looked and cant see it so could you clarify?
I do however think that ognum / Mungo anagram is a typical case of mis understanding what i say - that is quite possibly my fault at not making matters clear in writing (even tho others have understood) or disliking the fact I give as good as I get. Though any of that from either side doesnt help and i would rather respond to constructive advice as many have given and yes empathy / sympathy helps when in such a stressfull situ. I however do not expect to be stroked - even tho I love cats!