Cannot sell house due to Hoarder next door

ognum

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Shouting!
Ok I did not realise that capital letters meant that you were shouting - I use capitals to emphasise a point but I am quite calm when i do that so I'm not shouting ranting or whatever..
The problem with written communication V verbal is that people will mis read or misunderstand and draw their own conclusion and fire back before deciding - was it meant that way or not!
I use several forums mainly music ones + ebay at times and never before have had any poster say Im shouting or uppity - yet I say my piece just as we all are entitled to do and do do..[/QUOTE]

I had a feeling you did not know, hopefully it will help you in the future, maybe the MSE crowd are a bit more frank than the music crowd.

AS you say it is had to always understand where someone is coming from but it will also stop others who are to polite to respond from thinking you are shouting at them!!!,

ognum

shot_down_in_flames wrote: »

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Absolutely! you have sussed me completely
Its perhaps a weakness to always assume the best not the worst but if you are always a cynic and always on the side of caution will you ever be happy or achieve anything?

There are many people who do their due diligence who achieve a lot, that is why they achieve a lot!

I know you are trying to protect yourself and reassure yourself that you have done nothing wrong but your statements are way to general!

moneyistooshorttomention

Worthy points, but it doesn't sound as if OP had any way of knowing about these neighbours, as it looks as if they "played normal" until she started selling, at which point they started keeping their junk outside their house.

I don't think a neighbour going from no junk in garden to deliberately keeping loads of junk in garden all of a sudden once a sale is in prospect is a scenario that would cross anyone's mind. Certainly wouldn't have crossed mine for one minute...

I know I've been on the receiving end of a couple of actions that were just so stupid that no-one with two braincells to rub together would do them....well...some people obviously do have one solitary little braincell floating round in their head feeling rather lonely.....there's no accounting for actions taken by some other people sometimes (as we know we wouldn't do them...).

ognum

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Worthy points, but it doesn't sound as if OP had any way of knowing about these neighbours, as it looks as if they "played normal" until she started selling, at which point they started keeping their junk outside their house.

I don't think a neighbour going from no junk in garden to deliberately keeping loads of junk in garden all of a sudden once a sale is in prospect is a scenario that would cross anyone's mind. Certainly wouldn't have crossed mine for one minute...

I know I've been on the receiving end of a couple of actions that were just so stupid that no-one with two braincells to rub together would do them....well...some people obviously do have one solitary little braincell floating round in their head feeling rather lonely.....there's no accounting for actions taken by some other people sometimes (as we know we wouldn't do them...).

Money read OPs original post again.

She says that the garden was always full of ornaments etc and that the EA feedback from before and after the sale that fell through stated there was a problem with the neighbours house.

I read this as it is written that while this may have escalated following the agreed sale there was always a problem otherwise why would feedback before the agreed sale cite the neighbours?

moneyistooshorttomention

shot_down_in_flames wrote: »

Whilst I was aware at time of purchase that the adjoining neighbours house seemed a little odd as in gnomes and plastic windmills in the garden and the net curtains somewhat unclean I had no idea that they were serial hoarders!

Reason being was that once the neighbour knew I had a buyer he started to spill the house contents into the back garden and side driveway so with that happening who would want to continue with the purchase?

K

Do you mean this post?

There is mention of "gnomes and plastic windmills" (not too untypical of some peoples gardens).

...and the phrase "once the neighbour knew I had a buyer" seems to be the clue for when this throwing junk into garden commenced.

ognum

shot_down_in_flames wrote: »

Hi,
All viewings before this empty sale and after have shown thro agents feedback that - 'house lovely' but next door a problem!.

K

This is the part of the original post I am referring to, it is clear from this statement that the neighbours were a problem before the offer otherwise why would the feedback mention them.

They may have been a problem before the OP bought we don't know and I t appears nor does she from the answers given when she bought.

She thought it was a good price, if so etching is a good price there is usually a reason!

moneyistooshorttomention

I took "once the neighbour knew I had a buyer" as meaning that OP had a buyer back pretty soon after the house went on the market (ie a sale was agreed), but the next door neighbours got wind of it (perhaps when they spotted a surveyor checking the place out for the buyer) and instantly started throwing junk in the garden at that point.

Next door neighbours do often take an interest and get a whiff of "buying in the wind". The second time I came to view my current house it took the next door neighbour about 2 minutes flat to suss that this was Seriously Interested Potential Neighbour and to make darn sure they had a good look at me...I'd be willing to bet she realised I was going to buy this house before the vendor did even.

shot_down_in_flames

Ognum - you really do not understand - money does
the bad feedbacks came from further viewers since the original buyer pulled out after seeing the rubbish that only appeared once she had made her offer and we told the neighbour that we had sold.

ognum

shot_down_in_flames wrote: »

Ognum - you really do not understand - money does
the bad feedbacks came from further viewers since the original buyer pulled out after seeing the rubbish that only appeared once she had made her offer and we told the neighbour that we had sold.

I clearly do not understand, you are right. You post clearly says 'before and after the empty sale'

I am glad you have got a sympathetic ear from Money who is clearly giving you the answers you want.

Sometimes being challenged helps us understand, you clearly just want to be stroked and told everything you have done is right and correct and nothing is your responsibility, it is all down to others!

That's fine, it's an open forum those of us who read and try to prevent others from following in your footsteps are clearly being told to back off you only want posts who will walk your road and say you can do no wrong.

This is exactly how you have got in this mess I think, maybe it's time to change, think about it!

moneyistooshorttomention

shot_down_in_flames wrote: »

Ognum - you really do not understand - money does
the bad feedbacks came from further viewers since the original buyer pulled out after seeing the rubbish that only appeared once she had made her offer and we told the neighbour that we had sold.

...and I bet you are kicking yourself now that, in all innocence, you told those neighbours that you had a buyer. Hindsight is indeed a wonderful thing isn't it?:cool: As in, you wouldn't have told the neighbours if you'd known they were going to pull a stunt like this.

In that case, Pain in Butt Neighbours probably never would have done this in the first place or, if they had, then it would have been after the event (instead of before the event).

I think I can hear the sighing from here about being too naïve and trusting...a lot of us have been there and done that and wish we hadn't opened our mouth in hindsight...:(

I know I had my suspicions about a neighbour of mine (in former house) as to whether they had "done what they had done" at some level in order to prevent a nice, quiet neighbour like me selling and thereby ensure they didn't get an "unknown quantity" neighbour moving into my house. It was far from an Open Secret since Day 1 that I regarded that house from the outset as my starter house and purely a temporary measure and anyone with half a brain could have probably worked out at what point I might put the house on the market anyway. It would have been pretty blindingly obvious that I would never have planned on keeping a house like that.

So it may or may not have been coincidence that they did Summat Stupid shortly before the house went on the market that meant that no-one/but no-one in their right mind would have bought the place. But that was dealt with.....and the place sold just as it ought to have....and I didn't start wondering to any great extent just why they had done Stupid Action they had done..I worked out how to get round it and get round it and resolve the problem I did. Neighbours Stupid Action was sorted out and stopped from impacting on me and wouldn't have slightest impact on anyone else in the future...end of...it was gone.

It does very much depend on just what Awkward Neighbours get up to and when exactly they choose to get up to it.

In my current house (bought last year) I'd be willing to lay odds that the neighbours are betting that, if I got the means to buy a "top of ladder house" back in my home area I'd be off back there. Right now, they would probably be perfectly correct. But I reckon they and I are estimating I will have "settled down" by a couple of years time and might not take a chance if I had it...and might have even decided that it had been a blessing to have moved after all.