Cannot sell house due to Hoarder next door

shot_down_in_flames

SNOOP wrote: »

Mentally ill doesn't necessarily mean stupid.

Now that neighbour knows you are looking to sell, I cant see that you have anything to loose from approaching said neighbour in hope of a friendly resolution (I do know that may be far fetched).

Or failing that in most towns/cities there are individuals you can pay (I imagine rather small amounts) to "negotiate" (but in a non threatening manner) hard to settle differences.

So in short cant you just have a word either politely or not so politely .

Thank you for your thoughts, I think that you may not have read all of this lengthy thread ( which is understandable) or you would soon realise I have already done the polite helpful route.
Re engaging other individuals for payment to 'negotiate' - absolutely not, they are elderly neighbours who while they are a bain on my life and finances I could and would not encourage any undue pressure from anyone other than the local authorities who will continue to consider this problem a priority or not - so far they have said it is a priority for the health and safety of the people concerned and for my concerns also.
Thank you for your imput anyway.

shot_down_in_flames

There's no evidence that the OP is 'uppity' with anyone. She has been civil throughout. (from Dave)

Thank you dave and Money! (gosh thats sounds bad but you know who I mean!)
Some potential good news!
I have an hour ago received a further and new offer on my property by people who have viewed 3 times now since Feb and seem to be smitten - perhaps need glasses!
They were waiting for deposit monies and a mortgage in principle offer which I didnt know about until now but that is now in place.
The offer is far lower than I would have expected to achieve given the 'as new' condition of my own property however by accepting it that will be an end to my nightmare. If this all happens then in time to come when next door is sorted the new buyers will have bought an absolute bargain!
So its fingers and toes crossed at present! x

PasturesNew

As you've complained though - you'll have to declare your "problem neighbours" in the selling documentation.

shot_down_in_flames

PasturesNew wrote: »

As you've complained though - you'll have to declare your "problem neighbours" in the selling documentation.

OFGS!
Why are the doom and gloom merchants always on the prowl?

shot_down_in_flames

Gimme some will you - 5 mins of happiness after 5 months of no hope?
Shoot me down why dont you

BigAunty

shot_down_in_flames wrote: »

OFGS!
Why are the doom and gloom merchants always on the prowl?

PasturesNew could well be right, rather than just gloom laden.

I recall on the Property Information forms I had to fill in as part of the conveyancing process an obligation to 'fess up to neighbourhood disputes. In mine, I had to declare reporting a neighbour to the noise abatement team.

shot_down_in_flames

BigAunty wrote: »

PasturesNew could well be right, rather than just gloom laden.

I recall on the Property Information forms I had to fill in as part of the conveyancing process an obligation to 'fess up to neighbourhood disputes. In mine, I had to declare reporting a neighbour to the noise abatement team.

yes I think I understand what you are saying but does dispute mean when both parties have in writing confirmed to an official body that there is a dispute? I have emailed my concerns and remedy is starting to take some form of shape but my neighbour has done nothing to dispute it except refuse access.

BigAunty

shot_down_in_flames wrote: »

yes I think I understand what you are saying but does dispute mean when both parties have in writing confirmed to an official body that there is a dispute? .

To be honest, I can't remember the exact wording of the form because it was a few years ago but definately it wanted to know in black and white about neighbourhood disputes that involved contact with the council. Hopefully other posters will advise you about the likely wording of the form.

I wasn't too anxious about this as it involved a single instance of a report to the council about a neighbour 5 doors down who chose to stick a music amp turned up to volume 11 in their back garden, plus I withdrew the request shortly afterwards as it quietened down (probably because the noise enforcement officers had gone there from an earlier report).

On this forum, we do see posters asking advice about how they can sue the seller of their new property for omitting neighbourhood disputes, such as noise or legal issues like boundaries/shared space and the like from the form.

BigAunty

SNOOP wrote: »

Mentally ill doesn't necessarily mean stupid.

Now that neighbour knows you are looking to sell, I cant see that you have anything to loose from approaching said neighbour in hope of a friendly resolution (I do know that may be far fetched).

So in short cant you just have a word either politely or not so politely .

I know the response has been covered by the OP but my experience of dealing with people being unreasonable is that you stand little chance of being successful by talking with them since they weren't talked into being unreasonable in the first place. It seems that their neighbour made a few minimal noises to indicate that they understood the issue but has done next to nothing in practice to change the situation.

Some councils know that polite words have no effect. In one property, I politely bought a noise issue to the attention of the neighbour only to be subjected to abuse and intimidation and a deliberate escalation of the issue - only a letter from the council resolved it. At another property, I experienced a similar issue, checked the council website and they strongly warned against speaking to the person making the noise but to contact their noise abatement team directly.

Mental illness, especially expressed in the form of compulsive hoarding, is well known for being an enduring type that the sufferer is resistant to dealing with and that requires intensive treatment, if the sufferer even wants to change. Their collection of junk is something that they feel helps to lessen the suffering and misery they feel, it is a comfort. It is even thought there might be a genetic aspect to it.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hoarding/basics/definition/con-20031337

"People who hoard often don't see it as a problem, making treatment challenging... People who hoard typically save items because they believe these items will be needed or have value in the future. A person also may hoard items that he or she feels have important emotional significance — serving as a reminder of happier times, for example, or representing beloved people or pets. People who hoard may report feeling safer when surrounded by the things they save. ...some people never seek treatment."

da_rule

These are the two questions that appear regarding disputes in the Law Society Property Information Form (3rd Edition). Some companies use a slightly different one, but this is a template used by many firms.

2.1 Have there been any disputes or complaints regarding this property or a property nearby? If Yes, please give details:

2.2 Is the seller aware of anything which might lead to a dispute about the property or a property nearby? If Yes, please give details: