Have OVIVO gone bust?

pdoherty76

buglawton wrote: »

The best conspiracy theory so far on this.

Do you think the big networks, who make huge margins on phone contracts, would allow a successful free operator to survive?

I would rather be a conspiracy theorist than be that gullible.

You clearly have no idea what goes on in big business. For an example, see the Sky/ITV Digital/NDS scandal. Scotland Yard are now investigating the allegation that NDS hacked ITV Digital's smart cards to ensure they went out of business. It was exposed in BBC's panorama.

Sometimes I wonder if it would be nice and stress free to live in your world.

buglawton

Think you got the wrong end of the stick

pdoherty76

buglawton wrote: »

Think you got the wrong end of the stick

Possibly. But 99 times out of 100, when someone responds to one of my posts with the words "conspiracy theory", they turn out to be a brain dead gullible moron.

If I got the wrong end of the stick and you weren't saying it in an accusatory way then please accept my apologies.

Zebrdee

Has there been an official explanation from Ovivo yet instead of other people guessing what happened?

pdoherty76

Zebrdee wrote: »

Has there been an official explanation from Ovivo yet instead of other people guessing what happened?

Nope. And there never will be. They made sure they weren't contactable. Even linkedin profiles have been removed.

Kernel_Sanders

pdoherty76 wrote: »

Do you think the big networks, who make huge margins on phone contracts, would allow a successful free operator to survive?

Well, they do allow smaller companies to piggyback on them and undercut them at the same time. Why, though, I do not know.

pdoherty76

Kernel_Sanders wrote: »

Well, they do allow smaller companies to piggyback on them and undercut them at the same time. Why, though, I do not know.

They do it because it allows them to make some money from a different demographic.

O2 have expensive contracts on their main service but then they also own giff gaff which caters to the low end of the market. It is a bit like how BT have their broadband service but then also own the cheaper plusnet.

That all works fine but if Ovivo had exploded and suddenly started getting 100,000s of free-usage customers then voda would be very unhappy.

Isn't there legislation saying that networks had to open up to MVNOs?

poppy10_2

pdoherty76 wrote: »

Do you think the big networks, who make huge margins on phone contracts, would allow a successful free operator to survive?

Ovivo was free to the customer, but got money from advertisers, which they paid to Vodafone. So Vodafone still got paid. They don't care where the money comes from. Stop your silly conspiracy theories - if they didn't want Ovivo to exist then they wouldn't have agreed to let them buy service from their network

poppy10_2

pdoherty76 wrote: »

Your link doesn't work.

Try this

http://www.itpro.co.uk/mobile/21884/ovivo-mobile-closes-amid-money-trouble-speculation

Crabman

pdoherty76 wrote: »

You clearly have no idea what goes on in big business. For an example, see the Sky/ITV Digital/NDS scandal. Scotland Yard are now investigating the allegation that NDS hacked ITV Digital's smart cards to ensure they went out of business. It was exposed in BBC's panorama.

Excellent point. Another example is Facebook, which neutralised competing social networks by buying up app developer start-ups (Snaptu springs to mind) and then eliminating those apps' access pathways to other social networks so people were left with access to Facebook only. Their overall tactics and strategy worked as Facebook has dominated. Where is myspace these days?

I find the explanation from Ovivo puzzling. If the facts are as they claim they should be entitled to make a claim against the company that breached the contract and seek damages.