Nice People Thread Number 11 - A Treasury of Nice People

PasturesNew

Spirit wrote: »

I feel real joy that Stephen Sutton is well enough to be going home from hospital and thinking weeks ahead.

Remember that woman that did a lot of charity work for cancer .... and kept living - then people started saying "she's a liar, not got cancer, look at her living and running....." then she died.

Nikkster

PasturesNew wrote: »

I was trying to eye up a cheese baton earlier in Tesco, but in all honesty I just looked like some old lady freak zoning in on a hottie who was also by the bread, so I beat a retreat.

PN - I don't for a second think of you as an old lady freak, but that made me giggle.

PasturesNew wrote: »

Been there.... it's a tester for "fancy a no strings sh4g..."
Don't think it's anything else.... they're like that. Cunning.


That's a fabulous thing to spot! I always saw what I wanted...... and not the truth... so always crashed and burned.

There's always the NP Plans for you .... if you get to 50 and nothing's occurred

He'll be mortgage free by then .... a good bet.

I don't think it was a 'fancy a no strings sh4g'. Should know the answer would be a big fat no .That stopped with that person about 18 months before I moved out. Something that intimate with that person I just couldn't do. I have no problems with 'no strings', none at all. But that was more like the strings were tangled or had been cut than no strings.

I very much doubt the NP plan will work out. I doubt even more that lj will still be on the market by then

Nikkster

vivatifosi wrote: »

Well, in a few years time you'll be less attached to that property and the minimal hold that he thinks he has over you won't exist.

I'd like it back on principle, but it's value is going down by at least inflation every year. Most of it has already been out of my hands for prob 3-4 years, so I'm very used to not having it!

PasturesNew

Nikkster wrote: »

I don't think it was a ....

£1 says it was. It's in the Boys' Unwritten Manual .... if you want some, hit up all your exes as that's your easiest way to get a quick score. Easier than the alternatives.

And, on the basis of "if you ask enough of them.... and/or enough times.... you'll, on average, get luckier than if you didn't try"

It's part of the "stuff blokes do automatically without even giving it another thought".

If they want a beer, they go to the pub. Takeout, phone Dominos. Sh4g, text an ex. It's in the genes.

neverdespairgirl

michaels wrote: »

Or as the daily mail would see it scroats who ripped off pensioners walk free cos barristers not willing to get out of bed for only 84k per annum. 'Have you seen what private sschool costs these days?' says spokesperson for barristers.

Just goes to show that you don't need to be hte Daily Mail to be taken in....

The £84k figure was a dishonest one from the MoJ. They've been taken to task for it by the Stats lot in an open letter - that figure was arrived at by including VAT and travel to court costs, and Chambers expenses, and ignoring barristers earning less than £10k a year from public funds. (Letter dated 13th March 2014 from Chair of the UK Statistics Authority, Sir Andrew Dilnot CBE).

Concerns have also been raised with us about statements made, following the publication of the statistics, to the effect that average earnings for a criminal barrister who works fulltime and is paid from public funds are £84,000 per annum. We understand that this figure represents the mean fee income from public funds for fulltime barristers where any barrister with a fee income of less than £10,000 is excluded. This figure includes VAT, which barristers must pay to HM Revenue and Customs, and expenses such as travel costs.

£84,000 fee income

Minus 20% VAT - £70,000

minus £5,000 travel to court

minus average Chambers contribution

£53,333

minus Bar Subscription, insurance, practising certificate, CPD, necessary books and similar (none of these are voluntary) - average about £5,000

£48,333

minus sundry necessary expenses such as wig and gown cleaning, court collars and cleaning, stationery etc

£46,333

So a taxable income of just over £46k, on average, paid months to years after you've earned it, working often stupid hours on very complicated stuff, no sick pay or maternity pay or pension contributions, etc.

I wouldn't do full-time criminal law for that. I did that 3 month trial last year I mentioned, and it was absolutely all-absorbing and exhausting, and frankly well underpaid for what I was actually doing. I'm not doing another trial like that again in a hurry. That level of work, commitment and responsibility isn't worth getting out of bed for at that amount.

GPs earn a hell of a lot more, and there's no sign of anyone's pay in the NHS being cut at all, let alone by 30%. In fact, I'm not aware of any cuts in fees at all in any other job where public funds pay some or all of the costs. Barristers and solicitors (and legal aid in general) are seen as an easy target.

Nikkster

PasturesNew wrote: »

£1 says it was.

Nah. Pretty sure it wasn't. Too far away for a start (and unless they have learnt to drive, bought a car since I left... v unlikely).

£2 says just feeling rather sorry for themselves. I'm not even sorry to say I no longer care - thankfully not my problem any more.

silvercar

GPs earn a hell of a lot more, and there's no sign of anyone's pay in the NHS being cut at all, let alone by 30%. In fact, I'm not aware of any cuts in fees at all in any other job where public funds pay some or all of the costs. Barristers and solicitors (and legal aid in general) are seen as an easy target.

I have a friend who is a GP and she says you need to allow for the costs of running a practice.

Matthew Parris once said (when his salary increase on leaving Parliament and becoming a TV presenter was being quoted in the media) that you should halve every figure you read.

PasturesNew

Nikkster wrote: »

... unless ... learnt to drive, bought a car ...

Probably expects you to travel over there too!
Really, there aren't any limits to the cheekiness ....
My £1's still on the table.

Tahlullah

I agree with NDG. We are currently struggling to find decent barristers to work with, as many of the good ones, and unfortunately, there are good and bad in every profession, have given up Legal Aid work because the imput does not equal the pay. Their payment is now so low, after expenses are paid, that it is just not worth it, so justice is no longer being done. We have seriously damaged the legal system in an effort to cut costs.

bugslet

Doozergirl wrote: »

Bring out the floor plans! :dance:

First get builder to give quote and then lie down fkr a few days!

NDG, I have a size 6 ( I try not to stand near her) friend who is 5'3 and drives a truck occasionally. I'm sure your sister thinks you are more beautiful than she, it's the way our minds work.

Why do you think lawyers/barristers are an easy target? Public perception that they are overpaid?

lir, one of my dogs had metacam for a long time, he was fine with it; I hear about the bad reactions but never seen anything negative myself. I could live without grapefruit, but not avocado, which is my usual snack on a rice cake. :-)

Nikkster, I missed the gory details of the ex, but it's fair to say he sounds a complete plant pot. A lot of us make mistakes, helps us spot the good ones.

Lydia, good luck at court, and being able to access more appropriate help