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Nice People Thread Number 11 - A Treasury of Nice People

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  • Masomnia
    Masomnia Posts: 19,506 Forumite
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    Is Wednesbury the one about a reasonable person acting reasonably, or something? Me and my sister were talking about it fairly recently, as she's trying to get a training contract to be a solicitor. I've dealt with employment law before and one of the legal tests there is whether an employer's action 'falls within a band of reasonable responses', always a bit subjective I think.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Masomnia wrote: »
    Is Wednesbury the one about a reasonable person acting reasonably, or something? Me and my sister were talking about it fairly recently, as she's trying to get a training contract to be a solicitor. I've dealt with employment law before and one of the legal tests there is whether an employer's action 'falls within a band of reasonable responses', always a bit subjective I think.

    OH does employment law, so the "band of reasonable responses" is something I hear about a fair bit. Is that the area your sister wants to go into? (OH is a barrister, rather than solicitor).

    Wednesbury reasonableness is a concept in public law - if you bring a judicial review in relation to an action (or failure to act) by a public authority or quasi-public authority, one of the grounds upon which you can seek judicial review is Wednesbury unreasonableness. It can also be defined as "irrational" or "a decision that no reasonable decision-maker could have taken".

    So if you are a Claimant, you refer to Wednesbury unreasonable decisions, and if you are representing a Defendant, you tend to use "irrational" instead, as it sounds harder to challenge.

    Judicial reviews I deal with are mostly in relation to the Home Office (the part dealing with immigration, or immigration-related detention, or immigration enforcement operations). JRs are also brought against some planning decisions, the General Medical Council, or similar bodies. You can only bring a JR if you don't have another normal right of appeal.

    So if you want to challenge a decision where there is a right of appeal to a Tribunal, or court, you have to do that, rather than bring a JR.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Masomnia
    Masomnia Posts: 19,506 Forumite
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    Interesting stuff! Or I think it is anyway.

    Nah she wants to do Corporate. I'm not sure why really, I'm not sure she'd be suited to it, and she's not getting very far with job applications.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    It's much better paid, much harder to get into, and fortunately for me, not something I found interesting (-:

    I intended to do crime, and got a pupillage doing mostly crime and a bit of immigration for general practice and diary-filling, in 2002. I ended up enjoying the immigration law, being good at it, meeting solicitors who briefed me, and the crime got pushed to one side.

    The last general criminal case I did was a possession with intent to supply class A prosecution in 2009, and since then, I've done mostly immigration, some other general public law, and some immigration-related crime, but no general crime (sex / drugs / violence / theft) at all.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,469 Forumite
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    £652 cleaning? What on earth needed doing? That's a vast sum!

    I once got quoted £650 for the cleaning of a three bed flat. When I say "eh you wot?!?" the price miraculously dropped to £400 which was still pretty punchy. It's the steam cleaning of the carpets which seems to always ramp the price right up.

    Last couple of places I've lived end of tenancy cleaning has cost about £250/300 for a 2 bed flat. Well worth paying in my view as I really hate cleaning and it takes a whole day at least to do it yourself.
  • zagubov
    zagubov Posts: 17,939 Forumite
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    edited 25 April 2014 at 8:23AM
    Doozergirl wrote: »
    Wolf probably costs more than £652 and I've come to expect better of michaels than to murder his tenant.

    Removing radioactive waste in space suits is a possibility?

    That's how they remove asbestos pretty much. And a lot of the old science labs usd to have more radioactivity than we'd consider safe so they send people in space suits to saw up the furniture.

    Michaels would never murder a tenant or a non-tenant, unlike my mate's boss whose likeness is in Madam Tussauds.:eek:
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Wow, just wow.

    If you were trying to sell a 4 bed flat for 1.25 million, do you think you'd try to have photos which didn't include only a week's worth of dirty washing, an unmade bed and a filthy anorak?

    http://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/31900921?search_identifier=248cac5225b1967f97860f188b48bd74
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Masomnia
    Masomnia Posts: 19,506 Forumite
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    It's much better paid, much harder to get into, and fortunately for me, not something I found interesting (-:

    I intended to do crime, and got a pupillage doing mostly crime and a bit of immigration for general practice and diary-filling, in 2002. I ended up enjoying the immigration law, being good at it, meeting solicitors who briefed me, and the crime got pushed to one side.

    The last general criminal case I did was a possession with intent to supply class A prosecution in 2009, and since then, I've done mostly immigration, some other general public law, and some immigration-related crime, but no general crime (sex / drugs / violence / theft) at all.

    She isn't money-orientated though! That puzzles me I think.

    She recently had a lunch with the managing partner and some other colleagues from the firm she currently paralegals for (one of these informal staff engagement things). I asked her if she mentioned she had applied to do a training contract with them and was having an interview the next week, and she hadn't! 'Oh it didn't come up...' She's also had two quarterly reviews now where she hasn't mentioned that wants to be a solicitor. She's just in no way pushy or assertive, so I really can't see her doing corporate law, and it looks like the people who have been interviewing her can see that too.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    It's Anzac Day today. I took the kids to the dawn service at the local war memorial.

    It's quite nice but it annoys me that it's all about Gallipoli. Even for Aussies, WW1 wasn't just about a bunch of white diggers on the wrong beach in Turkey. I found out today that all but 5 male Torres Strait Islanders volunteered!
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    It's Anzac Day today. I took the kids to the dawn service at the local war memorial.

    Did you see Willie & Katie ?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27152882

    ....why has he got 2 medals ?
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
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