Nice People Thread Number 11 - A Treasury of Nice People

vivatifosi

Nikkster wrote: »

You've just reminded me, saw this earlier and meant to reply.



I am one of this year's 97.3%.

I completely forgot to do the week 5 test. I think it was because I got out of sync with week 4, then I was away for a couple of days etc etc.
Excuses, excuses.

That's a shame. Will you do the rest for fun? Would you do the resit next time? I've enjoyed it and have been frantically searching for my next MOOC.

DH starts one on learning to play the guitar next week (Berklee School of Music, Boston). I've seen a few others that take my fancy... one on China (the country), another on human trafficking, archaeology and another one on behaviour. I did say I fancied doing the very basic physics one and just got laughed at. I was OK at maths, chemistry and biology at school but my physics was really bad.

In addition to Coursera (if anyone is interested) check out edX, Udacity, iversity, Open2Study, FutureLearn (Open University).... Or there are a couple of consolidated MOOC lists online. Coursera is by far the biggest though.

Spirit_2

Doozergirl wrote: »

There is no point working part time if it means putting in the hours without the pay!

An unmissable meeting on a Thursday is totally missable if you don't work Thursdays. It doesn't matter who you are to them. Attend this meeting, but tomorrow you need to block your diary for non working days. People don't think when they're booking you in, if your time is showing as free, people will book it. Outlook, or whatever it is you use will recognise reoccuring NWD's and grey it out like weekends.

Enough already. They are getting paid, you are not. If they want you at the meeting, find a working day.

The days are greyed out:(...I need to brief people on something tricky, my non working days and other peoples holidays mean it is Thursday this week or so delayed that peopel will not have enough time to react. Thursday it is.

As it is an hour each way of travel it does wreck most of the day. First thing I have a diabetic eye screening, so a fun day all round. Not.

Nikkster

vivatifosi wrote: »

That's a shame. Will you do the rest for fun? Would you do the resit next time? I've enjoyed it and have been frantically searching for my next MOOC.

DH starts one on learning to play the guitar next week (Berklee School of Music, Boston). I've seen a few others that take my fancy... one on China (the country), another on human trafficking, archaeology and another one on behaviour. I did say I fancied doing the very basic physics one and just got laughed at. I was OK at maths, chemistry and biology at school but my physics was really bad.

In addition to Coursera (if anyone is interested) check out edX, Udacity, iversity, Open2Study, FutureLearn (Open University).... Or there are a couple of consolidated MOOC lists online. Coursera is by far the biggest though.

I might have a go at the rest. We'll see. I'll probably try the course again next time. I did enjoy it, though I do find that whilst the studies described are really interesting, the conclusions drawn are flawed - too much like the authors are trying to prove what they set out to prove. They don't explore enough alternative explanations for my liking.

I didn't end up starting the other course - I showed it to a colleague who very politely suggested it was quite advanced and I'd be better of brushing up on my maths if I felt I was rusty.

Epic fail

silvercar

Spirit wrote: »

The days are greyed out:(...I need to brief people on something tricky, my non working days and other peoples holidays mean it is Thursday this week or so delayed that peopel will not have enough time to react. Thursday it is.

As it is an hour each way of travel it does wreck most of the day. First thing I have a diabetic eye screening, so a fun day all round. Not.

Ideally you would then swap your working days this week.

Yorkie1

LydiaJ wrote: »

The way it was explained to me is that "sad", "can't cope", "tearful" and "low mood" are all overwhelmed feelings, and that antidepressants are good because they make things feel less overwhelming (and bring elevated stress hormones down). But I don't feel overwhelmed except very occasionally. Most of the time I feel very much underwhelmed. I don't fail to do things like cooking because they feel overwhelming to me (they don't), but because unless I need to do them to avoid letting an outsider down, then although I half-heartedly intend to do things, I just CBA to get round to beginning (stress hormones already too low). When I do need to do things to avoid letting outsiders down, I cope just fine with getting them done - on time if being on time really matters, and late otherwise.

Doozergirl wrote: »

I did a little google on burnout because I've never heard it used like you describe and the closest I got on the cortisol thing was adrenal fatigue.

lostinrates wrote: »

Adrenal fatigue is interesting. Its come up a couple of times in cross references for me in the past couple of weeks and it is very poo- poo'd but seems to be plausible minor state of cortisol issues not unlike Lydia describes.

Interestingly tonight I read something about the emotional impacts of my issues and hormones and cortisol and that once you get to the state your behaviour is being impacted even once surgery happens or medication controls you might well be irreversibly impacted by the period of stress.

It makes me wonder..how long a period of stress, or behavior impact can we live through without it impacting on who we are either biochemically or just through experience and behaviour default? I really don't know. I know I am, even before this tearful ness business, very different from the person I was ten years ago, but then......one hopes there would be growth anyway.

I was going to post about the effects of burnout and/or adrenal fatigue along similar lines above. Feeling CBA about something doesn't necessarily mean that the stress hormones are too low, but that you no longer have the ability to respond to them at the high level they are at. Tearfulness, inability to stir my stumps to do something, and inarticulateness are outcomes I find myself far more prone to the more anxious / stressed / overwhelmed I feel. The mind sort-of goes into shut-down and thus doesn't react.

I don't know how long it takes to reach 'irretrievable' impact state (if at all) but hope it's not yet (for any of us).

lostinrates

Yorkie1 wrote: »

I was going to post about the effects of burnout and/or adrenal fatigue along similar lines above. Feeling CBA about something doesn't necessarily mean that the stress hormones are too low, but that you no longer have the ability to respond to them at the high level they are at. Tearfulness, inability to stir my stumps to do something, and inarticulateness are outcomes I find myself far more prone to the more anxious / stressed / overwhelmed I feel. The mind sort-of goes into shut-down and thus doesn't react.

I don't know how long it takes to reach 'irretrievable' impact state (if at all) but hope it's not yet (for any of us).

Its incredible to me really. I was so convinced that these were purely 'emotional' issues and while I was aware they weren't ' nothing' I wasn't too concerned because tbh I'm quite proud of how I have held up for the most part. To find mine were actually most likely biochemical ones is sort of odd. Because,,,,,,so are mental health ones of course....


I think the biochemistry ones like I was reading about impacting longer term is a very different point to the one I have exteapolated for chewing on over defaults of behaviour.

Say for example my fear of doctors is born of a biochemical thing ( lets just assume it is) its now so ingrained that its now a part of me even if the biochem is righted,

Similarly. I don't know even if I were fixed in July if I'd be back clubbing for winter. Besides not wanting to be one of those weird older people 21 year olds look at and think....OMG, that would never happen to me.....I just don't think that it would be something that appealed to me. Is it because I grew up at some point, or because my nature has been impacted so much over the last decade ? I don't know, but its interesting to think a bout a bit, so long as it is interesting and not maudlin . I keep thinking of examples. E.g. What impact would a more 'meish' me have had on DH/dog dog, the cats? Its ok, because this me is quite popular in my house but I still would lIke to retain as much of my intrinsic me-ness as possible.

Expand if it froma self point of view out side a medical condition this is accepted in, if we fall I yo behaviour patterns ...what ever they are....impact of mental health, or impact of cruddy marriages, or ( hmm, or inversely, the benefits of greater than average marriages or situations that bias positively...hmm, not sure about that one) do these long term patterns or impacts linger in effect and change us forever? How can experience not? Habit is also a thought blighter to combat....to break a pattern is very tough, tougher than maintaining one.

Sorry, thinking while I type. There must be interesting ( along with load so rubbish) realms on this because its so ripe of possibility.

Nikkster

Ooh, they're talking about the zombie apocalypse of jobs requiring cognitive tasks (aka a second machine age) on Newsnight

Spirit_2

Epic fail on my part to quote NP.

Last September I met up with an old friend whilst on hols, her husband was not with her,and OH and I chatted away. She seemed a bit quiet but was suffering some paralysis from an op earlier in the year and I assumed that was the problem.

We like her husband, she had married him five years earlier following the death of her first husband.

Email tonight telling me of the death of her mum over Easter,that her paralysis has not improved at all and that at the time we met last year she had just separated from her husband after several years of abuse.

I have emailed back....but feel my words are just words, talk is cheap and that when we met up we were blinded by our own happiness.

As I said..this is an epic fail.

Yorkie1

Spirit, wouldn't your friend have said something during the time with you if she'd wanted to talk about it? She may simply have been enjoying some sense of normality with you and your OH, and not been ready to talk about it so soon after getting out of the awful situation. Could it be that you're being far too hard on yourself?

Nikkster

Do you think she would have brought it up earlier if she wanted/ needed/ realised she needed your help?