Ryanair's new 7-day check-in rules

rustyboy21

They will go to the people who pay for their seat, most people like a window seat. There will be a lot of people, who end up with a middle seat, who haven't paid for their seat, as it will take some time for paying customers to figure out, it is not worthwhile going for and paying for an isle seat and a window seat, hoping that no one will sit in between them.


The chances of getting a window seat free are extremely slim.

rustyboy21

NFH wrote: »

So why not charge at least £49 then so that the charges are honest and transparent rather than relying on almost-compulsory charges that are disguised as being optional?

Because they will get moaned at by the likes on here, that the prices have gone up and they are making a fortune ! They cannot win. There is such a thing as Marketing, which entices people to buy from them. This is what it is, all companies use marketing to their advantage.


If you are happy to pay the price they say and all the add ons, book it, otherwise leave the seats for other people. I think some people really do think they could do a better job than the ones in charge. They would last a day !( if that)

rustyboy21

NFH wrote: »

Other airlines like British Airways were offering remote check-in for years before Ryanair. In the same way, mobile boarding passes are offered by most airlines whereas Ryanair is still lagging behind and requiring environmentally-unfriendly A4 paper-printed boarding passes.

There is a little thing called technology which is involved here. It isn't a case of just nipping down to Maplins to buy the required kit and plugging it in. It will cost many 1000's to set up, synchronise into their existing system, change of software, training , bug solving etc.


He has openly admitted that the website is crap, perhaps the system they are using is not set up for mobile boarding passes as it is and needs upgrading.


This will be all over in a couple of months, people saying they won't fly with them again are sure to do so, as they are still cheaper most of the time, than the national flag carriers, fly to more destinations locally. 25 years ago, you couldn't fly anywhere from Liverpool, unless you wanted to go to the IOM or Dublin, look at them now.


http://www.liverpoolairport.com/flight-information/destination-map/


Look at Stansted, Manchester, Blackpool, Leeds Bradford etc, this is what low cost airlines have done for the UK

rustyboy21

NFH wrote: »

The people we are discussing are those who have already made the booking without their attention being drawn to this unusual and unfair booking condition.

No it's not, it is the typical British moaner, who wants everything for nothing. They will be on here in 6 months time, after departing 1 minute late and asking consumer rights, if they can get a refund.


Typical British Mentality !


This has been out in the public forum, sine at least Nov 2013, it has not been brought in overnight.

zaksmum

rustyboy21 wrote: »

Then it is you being that type of passenger, who makes it dearer for everyone else to fly. The sale of extra's on board, is what the flight actually runs on. It is not like filling up your car at the local garage forecourt, it costs approx. £49 each passenger to provide enough fuel for the plane to do it's journey one way and that is if it is a full flight . Add on airport landing fees, maintenance, staff, pilots, water bowser, ATC charge, Ground handling, it adds on quite a bit more.


Looking at that, you can obviously see why they charge for everything, with the price of each booking taken, with the risk that the flight won't be full.


You not buying a drink, no hold luggage, no seat allocation etc, make it dearer for everyone else to fly.


And you want to add on Seat allocation to everyone, even if they are going for 2 days. Bit selfish isn't it


And you talk about us being Trolls ! At least we substantiate our arguments!

This is a moneysaving site, you know. I don't even know why you're here if you think it's fine to pay £4 for a coffee!

NFH

rustyboy21 wrote: »

They will go to the people who pay for their seat, most people like a window seat. There will be a lot of people, who end up with a middle seat, who haven't paid for their seat, as it will take some time for paying customers to figure out, it is not worthwhile going for and paying for an isle seat and a window seat, hoping that no one will sit in between them.

You haven't understood my question. I'll rephrase it: Which of the following is the best strategy to get a free window seat?

1. Check in exactly 7 days before departure in the hope that Ryanair allocates windows seats to those who check in early.
2. Check in on the day of departure in the hope that Ryanair will hold back window seats in order to sell them at a premium and that window seats will consequently be the only seats left for last-minute allocation.

rustyboy21

zaksmum wrote: »

This is a moneysaving site, you know. I don't even know why you're here if you think it's fine to pay £4 for a coffee!

It is a money saving site, not a moan saving site. You have been aware of the rules since at least Nov last year. You are moaning that it is unfair, but the vast majority of people will have no real issue with the system, in fact most would see it as a plus, you won't have the aggro of trying to get 2-3 seats together now, it is all done in advance.


I am just trying to show you the futility of your argument, it is so minor , compared with things going on in this world at present. It has been known what they are doing now for ages, why all the sudden soapboxing?


If you haven't paid £4 for a hot drink anywhere, you have led a very sheltered life, not going to concerts/gigs/exhibitions/museums etc. £4 is about the right price, where you are held 'Captive' for a length of time and want a drink. It si around £2.50 for a bottle of water. There's a point, why aren't you moaning that you cannot bring a bottle of water through security and have to pay a lot more if you want to take one on board? or are you a Telegraph buyer, who gets their water free when buying it at the airport.


You must be from down South, as us from up north want to enjoy our holidays, no matter what the cost is, unlike southerners, who like to come back with the same amount of money as they went with ! That is a well known fact amongst airline staff. They make more on Northern flights than Southern.

rustyboy21

NFH wrote: »

You haven't understood my question. I'll rephrase it: Which of the following is the best strategy to get a free window seat?

1. Check in exactly 7 days before departure in the hope that Ryanair allocates windows seats to those who check in early.
2. Check in on the day of departure in the hope that Ryanair will hold back window seats in order to sell them at a premium and that window seats will consequently be the only seats left for last-minute allocation.

The vast amount of people, who pay for their seats, will go for a window seat, so the argument is immaterial, there won't/shouldn't be any left anyway. But lets say the flight was only 1/4 full and only a 1/4 of them had prebooked seats. Then the likelihood( if you look at other airlines systems and comments on other forums) is that you will be allocated middle seats from the back moving forward as they fil up. So using your theory, leaving it to the last minute, will give you a slightly better chance of getting a window seat, towards the front of the plane, but that is a suggestion. There will also be the issue of loading the plane to obtain correct take off balance.


Put it this way, one Jet2 flight we were on a few years back, I booked emergency exit seats on the wing, booking B&C, leaving A open. The flight took off and my OH moved into A when the seat belt sign went off, as did other couple in C&D, E being empty on their side. Both were severely told to move back to their booked seats, other passengers would complain if they were allowed to move, the other couple complained quite a bit and were threatened with Police at destination. This I believe is normal practice with Jet2 as they like the passenger manifest to stay the same seating order. They were still selling extra legroom seats as we boarded.


What is to stop Ryanair doing the same?

richardw

rustyboy21 wrote: »

...What is to stop Ryanair doing the same?

But you've already stated they can do what they like.

NFH

rustyboy21 wrote: »

The vast amount of people, who pay for their seats, will go for a window seat, so the argument is immaterial, there won't/shouldn't be any left anyway. But lets say the flight was only 1/4 full and only a 1/4 of them had prebooked seats. Then the likelihood( if you look at other airlines systems and comments on other forums) is that you will be allocated middle seats from the back moving forward as they fil up. So using your theory, leaving it to the last minute, will give you a slightly better chance of getting a window seat, towards the front of the plane, but that is a suggestion. There will also be the issue of loading the plane to obtain correct take off balance.

Is that just your theory or is that what has been happening in practice since Ryanair introduced this policy?

Of course the problem with option 2 is that it can be difficult to achieve for the same reasons that gave rise to this thread, i.e. how to print a boarding pass while away from home on the day of the flight.