Suspended - help please

BillJones

Torry_Quine wrote: »

I have to agree that if someone is doing that much unpaid overtime then being overly niggardly about personal emails would be harsh. However personally I can't understand why anyone would stay in a job that expects so much from them. :mad: If there isn't enough work for all those hours why are you at work?

On your last point, it's as I said, like being a goalkeeper. It's no good saying that they only out in 20 minutes work in a match, so should leave at half time, as they don't get to choose when the work comes in. It's the same with me, I'm needed when the phone rings, but can't choose when that happens.

As to why I'd stay in the job, it's fascinating, fun, and pays well. It's fair enough, in my opinion, that it expects a lot in exchange.

stebiz

fruitedeli wrote: »

It's common sense. Did you think they're paying you to sit around to chat or do something else other than work? You're paid to WORK. Not to do personal things during working hours.

Employer doesn't have to talk to you about it first. It's a nice thing to do if they're lenient, but if they feel like setting an example then you're in trouble.

Maybe he should salute as he goes in and ring a bell when he wishes to go the toilet. Get in the 21st Century.

lakes17

PHILANTHROPIST wrote: »

You are clearly a very thoughtful person Quietheart. Doubtless your concerns are greatly appreciated by the OP.

FYI I have been doing my best to offer some guidance to River Star based on my "experience" with similar situations. The input has largely been done via PM, in part because the evidence if presented in the open forum could link River Star to her fairly large national employer. OP could then be accused of breaching, albeit inadvertently, the firm's social media guidelines.

Anyhow, and I am certain that River Star will not mind you knowing this , but the OP has asked for further time to a) to receive some "meaningful" evidence from the employer. and b) to allow more time for OP to gather witnesses and prepare a fair and suitably comprehensive defence.

Thus the hearing date is in abeyance.

IMO for the OP to be suspended and accused of gross misconduct is in the circumstances disproportionate and an inconsistent application of the employer's internal procedures.

Once it's all sorted, either way, I'd imagine OP will out of courtesy summarise events and let the forum know what has happened in general terms.

Watch this space.

Phil ...

Really nice words to Quietheart. Pity you didn't afford the same nice words to my post (post 146) which was posted before Quiethearts words.;)

PHILANTHROPIST

lakes17 wrote: »

Really nice words to Quietheart. Pity you didn't afford the same nice words to my post (post 146) which was posted before Quiethearts words.;)

Please accept my apologies. I had temporarily run out nice words, but thank you anyhow. Cheers.

DKLS

Torry_Quine wrote: »

Really! It gets worse with employees paying bills in work time.:mad:

Whats with the angry face non smiley?

It gets much worse, I have also allowed staff to use their iPods, as long as they only use one earphone, so they can still hear the phone and they can access Youtube , twitter and Bookface. Funnily enough if you treat staff like adults they tend to be much more productive in my experience.

Last team I ran, we blew every single target out of the water for 3 years running, and that including the snr mgt changing the goalposts on a monthly basis, I wouldn't have achieved that by being draconian thankfully that organisation genuinely believed in achieving a good work/life balance.