paying for music and films

rash161

Pretty soon people are going to realise that funding things by online ads isn't really a solution. The problem with advertising is it's assuming that everyone is constantly wanting to buy something.

I block all ads, I would never click them anyway even if they were there, I promise you, I'd rather deliberately boycott anything with ads than buy it.

I would also never, ever pay for popular music, it's a big problem, along with television, it enforces the sick values of society and encourages inequality, racism, misogyny and all sorts of things. It also dumbs down society and makes people into mindless drones.

The only music that I listen to is political, music written purely to make money is wrong, it's also dull, boring and pointless, music needs to have a message. Popular music is essentially an advert in itself, an advert for oppression and control, why would you subject yourself to that?

Media piracy isn't theft but we should boycott the producers of the media, not download their stuff for free.

mattcanary

esuhl wrote: »

My advice... do what I do and just buy the CDs! That way you get proper CD quality and no adverts!

Spotify and YouTube are great for discovering new music, though... but the sound quality isn't too great...

I think Rdio is better than Spotify

mattcanary

BearNy wrote: »

So if I buy a CD/MP3 and sell i to my mate, then that's the same, however, if I buy a CD/MP3 and give it to a mate you're not ok with that? - I do realise I'm dumbing this right down also.

Although i'm not in 'The trade' surely artist making music and manage to get into the UK charts are selling more than 100,000, so therefore your money is made and anything after that is great? Many artists sing/play because they enjoy it, not because they want to be become incredibly wealthy, it's companies like yours CK that have made the media industry so money hungry in the first place.

Eh?
If you give a CD to your mate after you have finished it, that is irrelevant - as presumably you have provided money to the record company/artist when you first bought the CD

mattcanary

turtleneck wrote: »

quote "Because if you blag everything for free, the artists will have no means of supporting themselves (other than by getting a 'real job' and making music in their spare time), and your supply of decent free music will dry up."

sometimes I wonder in these times of austerity whether they should have to do it in their spare time? Would that be too much to ask? They could still tour and stuff but they would have to run it like a business, sell the tickets in advance and make sure theres enough tickets sold to pay for the venue/time off work etc.

You're a selfish sod, aren't you?


Paying to buy your music is peanuts, compared to what it costs to pay all your living expenses (even if you have a small home and few expenses)

mattcanary

rash161 wrote: »

Pretty soon people are going to realise that funding things by online ads isn't really a solution. The problem with advertising is it's assuming that everyone is constantly wanting to buy something.

I block all ads, I would never click them anyway even if they were there, I promise you, I'd rather deliberately boycott anything with ads than buy it.

I would also never, ever pay for popular music, it's a big problem, along with television, it enforces the sick values of society and encourages inequality, racism, misogyny and all sorts of things. It also dumbs down society and makes people into mindless drones.

The only music that I listen to is political, music written purely to make money is wrong, it's also dull, boring and pointless, music needs to have a message. Popular music is essentially an advert in itself, an advert for oppression and control, why would you subject yourself to that?

Media piracy isn't theft but we should boycott the producers of the media, not download their stuff for free.

Of course, it's theft.
Look in the dictionary.


Theft is taking something for free without someone else's permission. No ifs or buts

rash161

mattcanary wrote: »

Of course, it's theft.
Look in the dictionary.


Theft is taking something for free without someone else's permission. No ifs or buts

Ok, it's theft and I applaud anyone that steals from corporations

Deal with it

Those corporations also steal land and resources from the earth and the people and animals living on the earth, we're not the criminals, they are.

mattcanary

rash161 wrote: »

Ok, it's theft and I applaud anyone that steals from corporations

Deal with it

Those corporations also steal land and resources from the earth and the people and animals living on the earth, we're not the criminals, they are.

It's not just stealing from corporations though - it's also stealing from bands and singers.


Anyway, even if you don't agree with the ethics of big corporations (and I tend to agree with you they are often not great), that doesn't mean you steal from them. That makes you at least as bad as them.


What's wrong with development on earth?
Are you saying we should all still be living in caves and hunting/picking fruit from trees, etc in order to survive?

rash161

mattcanary wrote: »

It's not just stealing from corporations though - it's also stealing from bands and singers.


Anyway, even if you don't agree with the ethics of big corporations (and I tend to agree with you they are often not great), that doesn't mean you steal from them. That makes you at least as bad as them.


What's wrong with development on earth?
Are you saying we should all still be living in caves and hunting/picking fruit from trees, etc in order to survive?

The bands and singers are only in it for the money though, music shouldn't be about money, by boycotting their products we can force people to stop doing it for money.

Have you actually considered the messages that these artists are promoting? Often to children? Drug abuse and "Sex sells"? Well, I don't want to hear/see some prostitute miming over a computer generated beat.

There's a difference between development and outright destruction

googler

rash161 wrote: »

The bands and singers are only in it for the money though, music shouldn't be about money, by boycotting their products we can force people to stop doing it for money.

What do you do for a living?

I'll bet you 'do it for the money', whatever it is.

Let's look at a relatively small-scale artist - a band made up of a mix of American, Swedish, and British. They make an album. How are they supposed to pay the studio costs without making money?

They want to tour in Europe in order to play to their fans. Have you even the remotest idea how much it costs to schlep four musicians, their equipment, and a small road crew around the UK, Germany, Belgium and Holland? Again -

How are they supposed to achieve this, without making money?

DCFC79

rash161 wrote: »

The bands and singers are only in it for the money though, music shouldn't be about money, by boycotting their products we can force people to stop doing it for money.

Have you actually considered the messages that these artists are promoting? Often to children? Drug abuse and "Sex sells"? Well, I don't want to hear/see some prostitute miming over a computer generated beat.

There's a difference between development and outright destruction

The bands dont/cant control who listens to the music, its down to the parents to do the parenting job.

I dont mind paying for music and films.