paying for music and films

CKhalvashi

jonesMUFCforever wrote: »

I am now an expert in starting the next track on Spotify free, before the current one finishes to avoid the adverts.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

forgotmyname

Adverts and free music is one thing. When you buy something and have to suffer adverts is another.

Especially a DVD you just paid the best part of £20 for and cannot skip the adverts telling you not to steal the movie.
But if i steal it i dont get adverts forced upon me.

The odd virus every now and then. But no adverts This seems to apply to Limewire users. I had a spate of infected PC's come to me and every single one had limewire.

So use Limewire to steal from CK and send your computer to me to fix. Win win all around. Well win for me.

baconfootball

Where do you stand on eBay? Perfectly legal, even acceptable, but if I buy something on eBay, the money doesn't go to the 'artist'. Yes, somebody will have bought it new once but surely this is the same with piracy except in this instance somebody other than the artist is profiting...I personally use eBay a lot so interested in people's views...

jonesMUFCforever

baconfootball wrote: »

Where do you stand on eBay? Perfectly legal, even acceptable, but if I buy something on eBay, the money doesn't go to the 'artist'. Yes, somebody will have bought it new once but surely this is the same with piracy except in this instance somebody other than the artist is profiting...I personally use eBay a lot so interested in people's views...

If it was illegal I'm sure the big film companies would have stamped it out by now.

CKhalvashi

baconfootball wrote: »

Where do you stand on eBay? Perfectly legal, even acceptable, but if I buy something on eBay, the money doesn't go to the 'artist'. Yes, somebody will have bought it new once but surely this is the same with piracy except in this instance somebody other than the artist is profiting...I personally use eBay a lot so interested in people's views...

If you buy a CD that's been previously publisher-paid, and it's not a copy, then I don't have a problem with it.

The money that was paid for original CD (even though we're digital only now) is what keeps us making more music, and I have no right to stipulate what someone does to their property when they bought it.

An album (2 single releases + full album of 12/13 songs) needs to gross about £100,000 in sales to cover our expenses, and anything over that gives us a little profit, so you can probably see we NEED to sell, to be able to stay in business.

CK

BearNy

CKhalvashi wrote: »

The money that was paid for original CD (even though we're digital only now) is what keeps us making more music, and I have no right to stipulate what someone does to their property when they bought it.

So if I buy a CD/MP3 and sell i to my mate, then that's the same, however, if I buy a CD/MP3 and give it to a mate you're not ok with that? - I do realise I'm dumbing this right down also.

Although i'm not in 'The trade' surely artist making music and manage to get into the UK charts are selling more than 100,000, so therefore your money is made and anything after that is great? Many artists sing/play because they enjoy it, not because they want to be become incredibly wealthy, it's companies like yours CK that have made the media industry so money hungry in the first place.

CKhalvashi

BearNy wrote: »

So if I buy a CD/MP3 and sell i to my mate, then that's the same, however, if I buy a CD/MP3 and give it to a mate you're not ok with that? - I do realise I'm dumbing this right down also.

Give/sell, I don't have a problem with.

Although i'm not in 'The trade' surely artist making music and manage to get into the UK charts are selling more than 100,000, so therefore your money is made and anything after that is great? Many artists sing/play because they enjoy it, not because they want to be become incredibly wealthy, it's companies like yours CK that have made the media industry so money hungry in the first place.

Many artists also don't hit the charts.

Remember here that the 'average' artist will sell about 3000 copies of any single, so we need to double the average just to stay in business.

I refute that it's companies like mine that make the industry money hungry. I have built a decent business, which is effectively a stripped back record label from scratch, which employs a reasonable number of staff, whilst offering value for money.

Remember here that whilst many singers perform because they enjoy it, money has to come from somewhere to be able to live. We're not naturally in the market for huge money, neither are a number of our artists, and if you research closely enough, I was a huge fan in January of an unheard singer representing the UK in the largest music event in the world, being someone who has had to work full-time as well as singing, as it was all that could be afforded.

CK

googler

forgotmyname wrote: »

Adverts and free music is one thing. When you buy something and have to suffer adverts is another.

Especially a DVD you just paid the best part of £20 for and cannot skip the adverts telling you not to steal the movie.
But if i steal it i dont get adverts forced upon me.

Every DVD I've ever bought with a 'Don't steal movies' sequence has had the sequence at the start, before the movie or menu loads.

What's so difficult about putting the disc in the machine, going to get juice/beer/popcorn/chocolate, and returning 5 mins later to find the sequence has played out, and you're either on the menu or at the beginning of the film? I do that every time.

esuhl

googler wrote: »

Every DVD I've ever bought with a 'Don't steal movies' sequence has had the sequence at the start, before the movie or menu loads.

What's so difficult about putting the disc in the machine, going to get juice/beer/popcorn/chocolate, and returning 5 mins later to find the sequence has played out, and you're either on the menu or at the beginning of the film? I do that every time.

What's so difficult about ripping the video from the DVD to avoid the adverts? Or sticking the newly bought DVD on your shelf without even removing the wrapper and downloading a better version (without the forced ads) from an unlicensed source...?

It's counter-intuitive that material from unlicensed sources should be preferable to legitimately licensed work.

googler

Nobody's 'forcing' you to watch the ads on a DVD, any more than they're forcing watchers of ITV or Channel 4 to watch adverts.

You have the choice to look away, turn the sound down, or leave the room. All you need do is exercise that choice, and exercise your muscles.