*Vent* RSPCA!

BBQ141

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Does the same apply to St John Ambulance and RNLI?

Sorry, clearly you do not understand. St John's and the RNLI are helping people who need their services, they are not overstepping their authority, nor are they taking people to court in, sometimes, highly vexatious, cases.

The RNLI has not ever gone knocking on someone's door demaning entry to see their boat, and then tried to take the boat away and take them to court because they believe it to be in bad condition.

Nor do their members go around calling themselves "Inspector" and dressing like the police. Nor will the RNLI have you shot in the head if they happen across you with a broken leg and all the hospitals are full.

Ah great work being done by the RSPCA water rescue team, yep they're not all bad. However, they're not all good.

powerful_Rogue

BBQ141 wrote: »

Sorry, clearly you do not understand. St John's and the RNLI are helping people who need their services, they are not overstepping their authority, nor are they taking people to court in, sometimes, highly vexatious, cases.

The RNLI has not ever gone knocking on someone's door demaning entry to see their boat, and then tried to take the boat away and take them to court because they believe it to be in bad condition.

Nor do their members go around calling themselves "Inspector" and dressing like the police. Nor will the RNLI have you shot in the head if they happen across you with a broken leg and all the hospitals are full.

Ah great work being done by the RSPCA water rescue team, yep they're not all bad. However, they're not all good.

Whats the issue you have with the term "Inspector"? Also, since when did shirt and epaulettes become the sole uniform of the police? (Amusingly, most forces dont wear that now) Also, St John and RNLI also have inspectors.

When RSPCA inspectors have reason to believe that an offence has been committed, they prepare a case file containing evidence such as witness statements, photographs, and veterinary or other expert advice.

The RSPCA, unlike the police, have no special powers to gather evidence.

But we use the law to ensure any evidence gathered can be used in court.

Once the investigation is complete, the file is submitted to our prosecutions team, who consider whether the case ought to be prosecuted.

http://www.rspca.org.uk/in-action/whatwedo/investigatingcruelty

Cant see the issue with that myself.

Ok, so stray animal, no way to track owners because it isnt micro chipped. Broken leg, animal hospitals and rehoming center is full. What do you want them to do? Have you actually got any real life examples of this happening?

BBQ141

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Whats the issue you have with the term "Inspector"? Also, since when did shirt and epaulettes become the sole uniform of the police? (Amusingly, most forces dont wear that now) Also, St John and RNLI also have inspectors.

Many police forces are going back to the whiite shirt and tie approach now, as black cycling shirts do not look professional on some of their fatter officers....

They use the term inspector, and dress like the police in the hope of implying they have more authority than they actually do.

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

http://www.rspca.org.uk/in-action/whatwedo/investigatingcruelty

Cant see the issue with that myself.

Ok, so stray animal, no way to track owners because it isnt micro chipped. Broken leg, animal hospitals and rehoming center is full. What do you want them to do? Have you actually got any real life examples of this happening?

I know plenty of real life examples when the RSPCA have taken away someone's healthy animal and then executed it. I also know there are many examples of them taking people to court, or ruining their lives with expensive private prosecutions.

BBQ141

As an aside when is the last time someone from St Johns knocked on your door demanding to be let in and then tried to carry out unwanted first aid on you, or your family, and then "seized" your family member (with no authority) and then took you to court for it?

powerful_Rogue

BBQ141 wrote: »

Many police forces are going back to the whiite shirt and tie approach now, as black cycling shirts do not look professional on some of their fatter officers....

They use the term inspector, and dress like the police in the hope of implying they have more authority than they actually do.





I know plenty of real life examples when the RSPCA have taken away someone's healthy animal and then executed it. I also know there are many examples of them taking people to court, or ruining their lives with expensive private prosecutions.

But the shirt and epaulette is not the sole uniform of the police. Its used by many many other organistaions. Just as the term inspector isnt used soley by the Police but many other organistaion as well.

BBQ141

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

But the shirt and epaulette is not the sole uniform of the police. Its used by many many other organistaions. Just as the term inspector isnt used soley by the Police but many other organistaion as well.

Yes you are correct, however bus inspectors actually have some legal authority, unlike the RSPCA.

powerful_Rogue

BBQ141 wrote: »

Yes you are correct, however bus inspectors actually have some legal authority, unlike the RSPCA.

And what legal authority might bus inspectors have?

BBQ141

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

And what legal authority might bus inspectors have?

Bus inspectors have a legal right to require a person to show a valid ticket to travel on the bus. In London and certain other areas they also have the powers to require a person who doesn't have a ticket to provide their name and address, and/or issue them with a fine.

powerful_Rogue

BBQ141 wrote: »

Bus inspectors have a legal right to require a person to show a valid ticket to travel on the bus. In London and certain other areas they also have the powers to require a person who doesn't have a ticket to provide their name and address, and/or issue them with a fine.

Thats not legal authority though. If I walk out of Tescos with a TV and the alarm goes off, the security guards can ask to see my receipt.

Your talking about a penalty fare? Thats not a fine.

BBQ141

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Thats not legal authority though. If I walk out of Tescos with a TV and the alarm goes off, the security guards can ask to see my receipt.

Your talking about a penalty fare? Thats not a fine.

However you do not commit an offence if you fail to show a Tesco minion a receipt, they can only ask however a ticket inspector has the right to demand to see your ticket, this is enshrined in law.