Finding a job following dismissal for gross misconduct

Shazza122

Has anyone else been in this position? Anyone that can offer some advice?

I really have been in a pit of despair since this happened :-(

AP007

Shazza122 wrote: »

Thanks for your help...made me feel so much better!!

Sorry but you had been there 4 years and never knew the terms of this card you had?
You either tell the truth and see or lie and hope they don't ask the employer why you left. What else can anyone say to be fair.

bluenoseam

Well, the only thing I can say is that it's possible to move forward from a GM dismissal - AP007 is being slightly judgemental with the sweeping "I wouldn't hire anyone who's been dismissed for GM"! I've been there & fortunately now managed to gain two jobs since my sacking a couple of years ago and while it's not easy it's all about perseverence.

What I will warn you about though is the fact that as a result of a dismissal you'll likely have to take a step - likely several - backwards in a career sense. Previous promotions will essentially be wiped out in this case, especially as it's a pretty serious case, you essentially allowed a non-authorised person to use a company card for personal use afterall. I'm not saying you're doomed to a life of minimum wage, but you won't be top of the heap for a while after that sort of !!!! up, but I'm guessing you already know that.

Best thing to do is to find some way of expressing the experiences you've gained as a result of it - the lessons you've learned from the whole thing & what steps you will take in the future to rectify them. I know I essentially broke down why I'd been sacked to the point whereby I actually agreed with it & learned from that mistake to the stage it'll never happen again. In your case this is significantly easier (or I'd hope it should be easy to see!) than mine, but it's still the same, you learn from your mistakes.

Good luck.

lakes17

Shazza122 wrote: »

Has anyone else been in this position? Anyone that can offer some advice?

I really have been in a pit of despair since this happened :-(

I have never been in the position you currently find yourself in however I use to work in HR so I will try and offer you some advice. Firstly, I notice the hearing only took place last week. Have you put an appeal in? Did you have Union representation at your Hearing? The appeal would be to try and get a lesser sanction i.e. "final written warning" or "Action short of dismissal" which briefly means transferred to another post - usually a demotion with a final written warning attached. Reading through your posts this could be a possibility as you state that you received 2 promotions within the time you were with them. Again if you have Union representation they will be able to handle your appeal on the basis of the original sanction being to harsh

Shazza122

Than you bluenose!!

Both the jobs I am going for are much much less money than I was getting and I accept that entirely!!

Yes I made a stupid mistake and I'm paying for it now :-( but totally accept it was my fault.

Can I ask how you approached applications/interviews? I am worried sick at the moment as you can probably tell!

Shazza122

Hi Lakes,

The company I worked for didn't have any union in place so no representation I afraid.

I've not considered an appeal as I know I messed up :-(

Torry_Quine

Shazza122 wrote: »

Has anyone else been in this position? Anyone that can offer some advice?

I really have been in a pit of despair since this happened :-(

My cousin has been in this position and did manage to get employment in the same area of work so it can be done.

Firstly be honest with both a prospective employer and the job centre if you sign on. The previous employer may well put the reason you left and if doesn't agree with what you said then you've no chance. Be contrite and say how you've learnt from this. The job centre will contact the employer to ask how the job ended and again any sanction could be longer if they discover you lied to them.

most of all, don't give up, everyone gets things wrong sometimes.

Shazza122

Oh thank you all so much. The last few weeks have been hell and I'd convinced myself I was completely unemployable!!

Yes Torry I have been honest with the Job Centre and will be at the interviews...just hope someone gives me a break!!

System

I was unfairly dismissed back in 2008. I could not claim anything as with them for under 6 months.

In a nutshell, I started with 12 others and got trained up. Three or four of these started to mess with the figures, in order to get better bonuses.

They did no proper investigation into who it was doing this. They sent each of us individually to tell we will be suspended. No reason why. Then all got dismissed 2 weeks later. I was one of the 9 or 10 that did nothing wrong. During the disciplinary we were not given the opportunity to say 'actually it was x, y and z that did all this'

It took a few temp jobs to get back into some reality. One application form I had said 'please do not apply if you have been dismissed in the past 5 years'.

Shazza122

Sorry to hear what happened to you Scarlet.

When you got temp jobs etc. were you honest with recruiter/interviewer re reason for losing job?

I wake up every morning at moment feeling sick with worry :-((