Channel 4 report fake jobs?

Coopdivi

UJM have cleared out all the scam sites highlighted by Channel 4 but there's still other ones left.

Like Greys Marketing Solutions who are currently advertising 929 vacancies.

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/JobSearch/PowerSearch.aspx?rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2C6985%2C6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=2&co=x8338235dwpx&pg=1&q=greys%20marketing&sort=rv.dt.di&re=134

They have an interesting website with the inevitable link to CV Library. Notice the member of their staff called Maxell Benq. His father must have been a computer monitor.

http://greysmarketing.com/about-us.html

Job Ahoy are another one. They currently have 3054 vacancies.

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/JobSearch/PowerSearch.aspx?co=x8338235dwpx&sort=rv.dt.di&pp=25&re=134&rad_units=miles&vw=b&setype=2&pg=1&q=job-ahoy

http://job-ahoy.co.uk/ContactUs.html

The common denominators with all these scam sites is either there's no contact address or phone number or the contact address has been faked. There's also never a privacy policy telling jobseekers what happens to the personal details contained in uploaded CVs.

AP007

All the ones from post 24 are still there

Coopdivi

mro wrote: »

People have a look at the top 200 "employers" on UJM:

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/jobsearch/Browse.aspx?sc=em


Look at their jobs, same jobs listed multiple times round the country.
Click on a few, no contact details, and then apply, many of which take you to similiar dodgy websites without any contact details like Search Job Vacancies.

That's most of the employers I checked in short period.


Here are some I picked out:

Ados Solutions (5573 jobs)
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/jobsearch/search.aspx?rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&co=xw4862143wx

AJM Group (2351 jobs)
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/jobsearch/search.aspx?rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&co=xw3581641wx

Askew Distribution (3783 jobs)
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/jobsearch/search.aspx?rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&co=xw2736901wx

C P N Distribution (3303 jobs)
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/jobsearch/search.aspx?rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&co=xw4437149wx

Ck recruitment (2040 jobs)
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/jobsearch/search.aspx?rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&co=xw5975240wx

Eagle Eye Enterprises (1891 jobs)
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/jobsearch/search.aspx?rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&co=xw5547049wx

jl-consultants (3823 jobs)
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/jobsearch/search.aspx?rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&co=xw4102053wx

KRK Marketing (1577 jobs)
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/jobsearch/search.aspx?rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&co=xw5722205wx

Lesley Whittington (2667 jobs)
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/jobsearch/search.aspx?rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&co=x8338235dwpx

PK Prospekts (5086 jobs)
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/jobsearch/search.aspx?rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&co=xw3059499wx

Quadrant recruitment (210 jobs)
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/jobsearch/search.aspx?rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&co=xw5103039wx

Shire Distribution (1266 jobs)
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/jobsearch/search.aspx?rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&co=xw3112822wx


It doesn't look good ! :eek:

That is 33,570 jobs in 12 employers out of top 200 only !

Still another 182 employers out of top 200 to check.
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These are all for Kleeneze. For those of you who don't know what Kleeneze is, what happens is that you pay one of these websites up to £189. You then pay £30 for 50 catalogues - you can only buy 50 at a time. You deliver these catalogues to residences, perhaps in your neighbourhood. A few days later you go back to collect them. If you are lucky you'll get most of the catalogues back. If you're very lucky you'll get some orders. Incidentally the catalogues feature various household items that can be bought in the likes of Wilkinsons, only more expensive. You email Kleeneze with your complete order and a few days later it's delivered to your home. Now you have to deliver the orders and collect the money. Some of your customers may not be in or may choose not to answer the door so you have to go back yet again. Eventually you get your money. You keep 28%. Kleeneze gets the rest. Also the person who recruited you gets a percentage of your income.

It sounds terrible doesn't it? But fear not there's a solution. If you recruit other people they'll do all the running around for you and you take a cut of their profits. All you have to do is set up a cheap website then post hundreds of 'vacancies' on Universal Job Match. It doesn't cost a penny to advertise. Then sit back and watch the Pounds roll in while sneering at scroungers on internet messageboards.

mattcanary

Still seeing plenty of fake jobs on the Universal Jobsearch website.

And I'm not counting Kleneeze or Betterware adverts. They aren;t fake - even if they are hardly reliable work.

No, I'm talking about Search Consultants, Bodhi Money, etc.

They are still on there in huge numbers

KevInChester

If they removed them then it'd limit opportunities for sanctioning people for not applying for these obvious scams and none jobs. What has it come to when we have state sanctioned pyramid selling schemes..

mro

tinkerbell_2k12 wrote: »

I've applied for many jobs on my ujm account where the company details says company confidential, and more often than enough it always shows as application received but never changes over to viewed, are those fake jobs too?

mro wrote: »

I don't know, I wouldn't say that automatically, as I think they are often individual ads.

UJM has been criticised for allowing Company Confidential jobs.

You have to make your own judgement overall how it all looks.


Ps: I've seen your other thread, but you need to cover your back and apply for enough jobs to keep your advisor happy so you don't get referred for sanction.

It does look like anonymous Company Confidential jobs are also being used for mass dodgy "jobs".

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/JobSearch/PowerSearch.aspx?pp=25&pg=1&sort=rv.dt.di&re=134&avsdm=2014-01-18T11%3A22%3A00-05%3A00&tjt=Home%20based%20opportunity%20%E2%80%93%20Recruitment%2C%20Coaching%2C%20Business%20Development%2C%20Retail%2C%20Admin%2C%20Sales

Home based opportunity – Recruitment, Coaching, Business Development, Retail, Admin, Sales,

Company Confidential

http://www.askdavenow.com/ aka Ask Dave Now

Job Ids: 6069945, 6098067, 6098078, 6098059 etc.


I searched on the Job Title, it comes up with 136,369 jobs, just on that title with those words, although those aren't exact matches in 40 pages of displayed results, but may indicate scale of problem.

red_devil

Just found one too. A site that hasnt even been created yet.

AP007

mro wrote: »

It does look like anonymous Company Confidential jobs are also being used for mass dodgy "jobs".

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/JobSearch/PowerSearch.aspx?pp=25&pg=1&sort=rv.dt.di&re=134&avsdm=2014-01-18T11%3A22%3A00-05%3A00&tjt=Home%20based%20opportunity%20%E2%80%93%20Recruitment%2C%20Coaching%2C%20Business%20Development%2C%20Retail%2C%20Admin%2C%20Sales

Home based opportunity – Recruitment, Coaching, Business Development, Retail, Admin, Sales,

Company Confidential

http://www.askdavenow.com/ aka Ask Dave Now

Job Ids: 6069945, 6098067, 6098078, 6098059 etc.


I searched on the Job Title, it comes up with 136,369 jobs, just on that title with those words, although those aren't exact matches in 40 pages of displayed results, but may indicate scale of problem.

I filled in the form and got this 1 min after

Hello Sarah,
Thank you for responding to my advertisement this afternoon.
[FONT=ArialMT, sans-serif]We are currently expanding in all areas of the UK and Ireland.[/FONT]
[FONT=ArialMT, sans-serif]We are looking for two types of people for part time and full time positions:[/FONT]
Firstly, we help people earn an immediate income of £300 - £500 per month part time working 10-15 hours per week. Full time £1,000+ per month initially.
We are also looking for more ambitious people to train to become teamleaders and team co-ordinators typically earning £1,000+ per month part time.
Our top earning team co-ordinators earn in excess of £100k per annum.
Please watch the video all the way to the end then reply to this email.
click here to view our 15 minute video presentation.

Kind regards,
David Appleford
[FONT=ArialMT, sans-serif][URL="tel:07977019413"]07977019413[/URL] / [EMAIL="info@askdavenow.com"]info@askdavenow.com[/EMAIL][/FONT]

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I will reply with a good email

AP007

What a surprise its KLEENEZE!!!

With actress Angela Griffin supporting them!!!

SaveMeDo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Jobmatch

Universal Jobmatch is a British government website where unemployed people can try to find job vacancies. The website has been subject to a number of criticisms including concerns over data security, the appearance of bogus job adverts on the site,[1] and the suitability of some job postings. In 2012 it was reported that an advertisement for a pornographic actress and a !!!!! hitman had appeared on the site.[2] The site was developed by Monster,[3] at a cost of over £17 million and annual running charges of £6Million. Controversy has arisen due to people having registered with Universal Jobmatch and then finding that they are targeted by dubious organisations and individuals in financial scams.[3] Instead of resolving this issue, the Monster Corporation which operates the system on behalf of the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) require all users, when creating an account, to accept a number of terms and conditions of use,[4] including the clause that they "don't accept liability for loss or damage incurred by users of the website.
The website has replaced the Jobcentre Plus job search tool and Employer Services Direct. The service has been introduced as part of a Government campaign to assist the DWP to monitor client's jobsearch activities directly, and as part of the "Digital By Default" agenda to migrate more British Subjects to subscribe to an online process when claiming benefits, both unemployment benefit and In Work (Universal Credit benefit). The service was switched prematurely live through an AlphaTesting System in November 2012, was commended as being a perfect system by Minister of State George Iain Duncan Smith in November 2012,I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I but remains a work in progress. Whereas, in parallel to the switching of Universal Job Match, the DWP closed its existing processes supporting Job Search and Employer Services Direct, migrating its customers to the new system, and reported that 460,000 employers posting jobs and the site receiving over 6 million searches per day. By February 2013 there were some 2 million registered users.,[5] although ambiguity remains with these figures. When Universal Job Match was introduced, the DWP migrated existing users of its Employer Services Direct service to Universal Job Match, thereby inflating the database of registered users.
However, from the outset of the Alpha Testing System being promoted as being live in November 2012, whereas Universal Job Match may generate a number of job leads, and whereas each Job Lead may require candidates to apply for a job through an external website, there is no guarantee that, upon visiting the web site, the Job Lead will still exist. The Monster Corporation (which operates the system on behalf of the Department of Works and Pensions) makes it clear when candidates sign up to the system that "they do not accept liability or responsibility for any financial consequences".I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I
It is not a requirement to register, and anonymous searches can be made and applications made directly to companies that have posted their contact details. However, as of 01/03/2013 Jobcentre advisers can, if giving a good reason, require Jobseeker's Allowance claimants to use the site through a Jobseeker Direction. If they refuse to comply, they can be recommended for a benefit sanction. A decision-maker takes the final decision over whether benefit should be removed, which as a consequence of the UK Governments Welfare Reform Bill of 2012, may lead to a loss in State Benefits for 3 years.[6]
Registered users have the option to allow the DWP to have access to their accounts. Whilst this is not mandatory, claimants are threatened with a sanction to do so to aid their jobsearch activity and to enable the DWP to monitor claimants' activity.[7]
Additionally, hacktivists have created an plug-in addition for the Chrome Browser which will allow the automatic distribution of CVs to recruiters through Universal Job Match.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster.com

Monster.com is one of the largest employment websites in the world, owned and operated by Monster Worldwide, Inc. In 2006, Monster was one of the 20 most visited websites out of 100 million worldwide, according to comScore Media Metrics (November 2006). It was created in 1999 by the merger of The Monster Board (TMB) and Online Career Center (OCC), which were two of the first and most popular career web sites on the Internet. Monster is primarily used to help those seeking work to find job openings that match their skills and location.
Today, Monster is the largest job search engine in the world.[3][4][5][6] Monster has over a million job postings at any time and over 1 million resumes, in the database (2008) and over 63 million job seekers per month.[7] The company employs approximately 5,000 employees in 36 countries. Its headquarters are in New York, New York in the United States. In October 2010, Indeed.com slipped past Monster.com to become the largest job site in the United States.[8][9]
Monster also maintained the Monster Employment Index.
Jeff Taylor founded The Monster Board and served as CEO and "Chief Monster" for many years.

http://publisher.monster.com/


So Monster.com also pay for vacancies posted by affiliates!


As Kevinchester says above this appears to be a pyramid selling scam.