EE.T-Mob.Orange. Change T&C From 26th March 2014

50Twuncle

I can log in (If I accept the risk of lack of website security) - I was forced to add it to my exceptions list to access the main site) in IE
Firefox reports the site as being untrusted
But even if I accept this - I am unable to log in to my BILLS !

sshariff

Well, this is a first. EE have not responded by my deadline of the 26th (after the 1 week extension period is up). An adjudicator has been appointed without receiving any response.

Case No: XXXXXXX - Mr X v Everything Everywhere LTD (EE)
We note that we have not received a Response in the above named case, and therefore we have proceeded to appoint an adjudicator for directions in this case.

The parties are advised that, Mr Y has been appointed as adjudicator.

The documents so far submitted are being forwarded to the adjudicator. The adjudicator may proceed to determine the dispute on the basis of the statement of claim documents only. Alternatively if the adjudicator sees fit, he/she may direct that the company may have a further extension of time within which to submit the defence to claim.

Yours sincerely

SimonD316

sshariff wrote: »

Well, this is a first. EE have not responded by my deadline of the 26th (after the 1 week extension period is up). An adjudicator has been appointed without receiving any response.

Case No: XXXXXXX - Mr X v Everything Everywhere LTD (EE)
We note that we have not received a Response in the above named case, and therefore we have proceeded to appoint an adjudicator for directions in this case.

The parties are advised that, Mr Y has been appointed as adjudicator.

The documents so far submitted are being forwarded to the adjudicator. The adjudicator may proceed to determine the dispute on the basis of the statement of claim documents only. Alternatively if the adjudicator sees fit, he/she may direct that the company may have a further extension of time within which to submit the defence to claim.

Yours sincerely

Well that's interesting. I assume your with EE?

Dils47

sshariff wrote: »

Well, this is a first. EE have not responded by my deadline of the 26th (after the 1 week extension period is up). An adjudicator has been appointed without receiving any response.

Case No: XXXXXXX - Mr X v Everything Everywhere LTD (EE)
We note that we have not received a Response in the above named case, and therefore we have proceeded to appoint an adjudicator for directions in this case.

The parties are advised that, Mr Y has been appointed as adjudicator.

The documents so far submitted are being forwarded to the adjudicator. The adjudicator may proceed to determine the dispute on the basis of the statement of claim documents only. Alternatively if the adjudicator sees fit, he/she may direct that the company may have a further extension of time within which to submit the defence to claim.

Yours sincerely

My response is due today after 5 day extenstion, also on EE. Get the feeling I wont be receiving one.

hammersfaniow

Apologies for this being slightly O/T, but maybe for those who feel they can't get any further down the road with this matter, does anyone know if you are still able to reduce your price plan after the first half of your contract with Orange ?

sshariff

SimonD316 wrote: »

Well that's interesting. I assume your with EE?

No, with Orange - Pre Oct 2012!

The adjudicator assigned to my case can be found at the CISAS website http://www.cisas.org.uk/CISASAdjudicators-10_e.html

Note that the adjudicators are qualified in law, so I am quite surprised that CISAS cannot handle matters pertaining to legal terms in contracts!!!

baldyj

How quickly have people heard from CISAS after deadlines have elapsed?

I was told that EE would have to submit their defence on or before 26th March, but so far I have not heard anything (not even an email to say they have extended the deadline by a week!)

Just trying to gauge whether i should chase CISAS or sit tight!?

jakethepeguk

Nice @ sshariff
So one can only assume, they dont have a defence for contracts on orange pre oct 2012.
This should be really interesting, to see exactly who Cicas are there to support. Interesting though, what is going on with OfGen,
Maybe, just maybe, Ofcomm might begin doing the role, they were set up to do !

baldyj

jakethepeguk wrote: »

Nice @ sshariff
So one can only assume, they dont have a defence for contracts on orange pre oct 2012.

They do have a defence for Orange pre Oct 2012, See post #626. For some reason though (probably admin error) they have not submitted it for sshariff.

SimonD316

Yeah they do have a defence for pre October 2012.

To be fair it's not much of a defence. Remember that the contract does not mention 'Material Detriment', yet they claim the change is not of material detriment, and to make the point have said...

Further or alternatively, it is submitted that the difference, over the course of the Claimant’s minimum term between any two measures of inflation which would qualify under point 15.1(a) and/or 15.1(b) is not sufficient to be material.

So if the change isn't sufficient to be material detriment, it must be detriment... Case closed?