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  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    I think that on some levels it is a cowardly thing to do but where does the line between that and "whistleblower" lie? If these people are in positions of authority and you have evidence that they are abusing that authority then by all means wait until you have nothing to lose but maybe re think your strategy?

    I remember someone learning that a much hated teacher was retiring, and of course, the retirement send off is done regardless of whether anyone is good at what they do, or a nice person. In amongst the cards wishing them well was a letter from a group of former students who the teacher had bullied and belittled. They said all they had been unable to say previously, and in no uncertain terms. Slightly different perhaps, as the teacher and the pupil are not on equal standing, or maybe not, as run of the mill workers and management are not either I suppose.
  • paulineb_2
    paulineb_2 Posts: 6,489 Forumite
    shezza2 wrote: »
    Thats not strictly true because on talking to the majority of people they also have had runnings with these people but they have a lot to lose by making waves, and when they have spoken out they have suffered.

    And will sending an email like that make life any better for the people who still have to work with the bullies?
  • J_i_m
    J_i_m Posts: 1,342 Forumite
    shezza2 wrote: »
    Am surprised at the amount of people who let bullies and the like off so easily, Always makes me wonder how many employers answer on this forum........Wait for it.

    I've been bullied on and off through out my life. I have experience of what happens when you decide to "fight fire with fire".. which is you get burnt.

    If you really want to tackle these supposed bullies then you ought to be professional about it.

    Talk to them (respectfully and reasonably) about their behavior and how it affects you (and others).

    If that doesn't do anything, then raise a grievance inline with your employer's conduct/disciplinary policies and procedures.

    Your suggestion isn't going to solve anything. What could happen is they'll laugh at you or worse be so offended that they'll take action against you.
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  • paulineb_2
    paulineb_2 Posts: 6,489 Forumite
    shezza2 wrote: »
    Am surprised at the amount of people who let bullies and the like off so easily, Always makes me wonder how many employers answer on this forum........Wait for it.

    I was bullied in just about every single full time job I had, I worked in a sector where there was a massive bullying culture and I fought it every step of the way, my working conditions made me ill. Its the employers who dont deal with bullies who are at fault, not the people being bullied, I can also understand why people dont want to raise grievances because if you do your life can be made worse.

    Sending an email naming and shaming will achieve exactly what for the people who are still there and suffering?

    Will it change the bully behaviour, will it change the way the employer responds to complaints about bullying?
  • shezza2 wrote: »
    Hi all, towards the middle of this year I will be retiring from the rat race. I would have been at my employment for about 3 1/2 years by then. Over the past 18 months there are one or two people that have been a pain in the backside to say the least.
    On my last day I want to send an email to all staff thanking them for their help and friendship, but I also want include the fact that there are a few who have been T***S. and I intend to name names and the fact that amongst other things they have been bullies,liars and vindictive. I want to name the people so that it will bring major embarrassment to the culprits. Now, my question is I KNOW that everything I am going to write is true but where do I stand legally?

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  • keyser666
    keyser666 Posts: 2,140 Forumite
    fruitedeli wrote: »
    Don't be stupid. Employers has sued ex-employees for libel in the past, and will continue to do so. This is a very convenient time, when OP has some savings and pension money. Sue for all they're worth and leave them penniless. You never should sue someone for libel if they don't have the money to compensate you. Only do this to people who are retiring.
    No as said dont you be so stupid, no way an employer is going to spend or ask their insurance to stump up a minimum of £250k for a libel case and based on the information we have from the OP the content will be truthful therefore not going to happen
  • Nicki
    Nicki Posts: 8,166 Forumite
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    poet123 wrote: »
    I think that on some levels it is a cowardly thing to do but where does the line between that and "whistleblower" lie?

    In law that line is very clearly demarcated and what OP is proposing is not whistleblowing whatever she feels about her work situation.

    Legally for it to be whistleblowing it must be:

    illegal behaviour in the workplace or serious breaches of regulatory or employment codes AND

    disclosure only to the person with responsibility to investigate and deal with it - so a senior member of staff, a member of an appropriate regulatory body, the police, etc.

    Whistleblowing protections NEVER cover widespread emails to all and sundry, disclosures to the media, etc whatever people might like to think.
  • Bennifred
    Bennifred Posts: 3,986 Forumite
    poet123 wrote: »
    I think that on some levels it is a cowardly thing to do but where does the line between that and "whistleblower" lie? If these people are in positions of authority and you have evidence that they are abusing that authority then by all means wait until you have nothing to lose but maybe re think your strategy?

    I remember someone learning that a much hated teacher was retiring, and of course, the retirement send off is done regardless of whether anyone is good at what they do, or a nice person. In amongst the cards wishing them well was a letter from a group of former students who the teacher had bullied and belittled. They said all they had been unable to say previously, and in no uncertain terms. Slightly different perhaps, as the teacher and the pupil are not on equal standing, or maybe not, as run of the mill workers and management are not either I suppose.


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  • DaveTheMus
    DaveTheMus Posts: 2,669 Forumite
    You could tell them face to face what you think of them.......

    ...there's nothing brave about sending an email, makes you look like a cowardly keyboard warrior.
    We’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • redcard
    redcard Posts: 1,563 Forumite
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    You could send the email tomorrow, why wait until your last day?

    Oh wait, you're a coward. You're going to send it then hide from the consequences.

    You'll probably get some gifts and be asked to make a short speech. Why not say something then?

    Anyway, you aren't sending any email, and this is all posturing on your part.
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