Stealing gas and electricity

chanz4

I have been in court a few times, but only with certain cases

molerat

The suppliers don't bother chasing the theft as the total amount of recoveries probably does not cover the total costs of investigating and recovering, it is just another drain on the bottom line, it is the same with shoplifting.

cepheus

The thieves swap round suppliers which presumably masks the real cost, and makes it difficult to identify anomalous readings, shouldn't these firms be cooperating?

What annoys me is that it wasn't clear if the 'fines' only covered what they had used. Surely it's worth the thieves 'having a go' if that's the case? Did you hear the guy who asked for a rebate?

If they are advertising services for fiddling meters, surely it's a straightforward case of ringing the criminals up?

It should be possible to identify most large users such as cannabis growers through thermal imaging.

chanz4

cepheus wrote: »

The thieves swap round suppliers which presumably masks the real cost, and makes it difficult to identify anomalous readings, shouldn't these firms be cooperating?

What annoys me is that it wasn't clear if the 'fines' only covered what they had used. Surely it's worth the thieves 'having a go' if that's the case? Did you hear the guy who asked for a rebate?

If they are advertising services for fiddling meters, surely it's a straightforward case of ringing the criminals up?

It should be possible to identify most large users such as cannabis growers through thermal imaging.

Suppliers do share information, if caught the info would be passed on as the dno / network will be the same for that area. Also the reason behind a lot is that we have a toothless regulator that takes the sides of the thief when caught and a supplier wont reconnect

Candy53

It worried me when they said that people have been tapping into their neighbour's electricity, and you don't know they're doing it.

I was shocked when a shop owner had been found out, and when they estimated how much he would have to pay back, he asked them if he could have a discount! :rotfl:


Candy

silverwhistle

sacsquacco wrote: »

See what I mean about pro moaners, anti everything by nature, so you too are anti smart to some degree.

That's a bit rich coming from you who is constantly moaning about meter fiddling and then 'anti-frackers'. I can agree with you that something should be done about fiddling, perhaps you'd be polite enough to accept that I have a valid point about fracking.

We've seen how big companies will take short cuts where they can, thank you for pointing out something we all know, and you've already admitted smart meters as planned aren't the answer...

molerat

Who actually pays for unmetered use, is it just put down to system losses and the cost gets put onto the wholesale unit price and passed down to those users that do pay ?

chanz4

molerat wrote: »

Who actually pays for unmetered use, is it just put down to system losses and the cost gets put onto the wholesale unit price and passed down to those users that do pay ?

Its revenue leakage , and the distibutor looses out which then impacts high wholesale as you say

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molerat wrote: »

Who actually pays for unmetered use, is it just put down to system losses and the cost gets put onto the wholesale unit price and passed down to those users that do pay ?

unmetered use !! is that what you call it. are you mad? go and see the remains of the house what blew up in Sheffield. Anyone who speaks like that I m afraid I will view with great suspician myself, you are making light of an obvious crime. Its straight theft in anyones language, dangerous theft at that, threatening the thief, his family and the neighbours.
a lot of major shops do prosecute without fail, even if they lose out in the costs but the thieves know this and these stores will get less shoplifting, in other words theres a deterrent to crime. No deterrents leads to more and more theft

I_have_spoken

Before we get all out of shape, let's not forget that transmissions loses in the national grid and local distribution network is about 10% of generated power, all going to heat up the air.