MSE News: Thousands of tenants to get bedroom tax rebate

nannytone_2

northerntwo1 wrote: »

what happens to disabled who are home owners. Who pays their costs. Do they exist or live. Who pays maintenance costs and buildings insurance. They clearly have less disposable income than a renter. I always admire your tenacity and i really like your posts but you do only consider those you can affiliate with.

i am inclined to speak about the things 'i know' to do otherwise would be wrong and patronising.
I suppose disabled homeowners alwaays have the option to sell and realise thier assets. I admit that i am inclined to look at things from the point of view of those who have nothing ( apart from their disability )

Confuseddot

regbrown wrote: »

the governments own impact assessment, maybe actually do some research yourself next time

Those figures covered those with a stutter as it covered those within equality act, show me some proof to back your argument that truely "disabled" are suffering and I will happily support you to the cows come home. Under those rules I would be considered disabled and certainly do not need a spare room of any way shape form.

northerntwo1

regbrown wrote: »

Oh god. Another one? Lets use those disabled in private renting as the excuse to bash those that aren't. Wow, broken much?

I Never mentioned private rentals but you keep throwing out unsubstantiated claims as fact with viritol, it adds to your clearly informed knowledge on this subject. Surely if you are passionate about something you have facts as opposed to launching personal attacks on people. You cannot even be civil which shows the level of you stoop to.

regbrown

northerntwo1 wrote: »

guff

amazing, what a shame you cant put the same effort into focussing on those who DO need the help and ARE suffering from this policy.

a broken set of priorities... I wonder if your a party member, a DWP employee or just one of the small % who are incapable of considering the situations of others?

~Chameleon~

regbrown wrote: »

the governments own impact assessment, maybe actually do some research yourself next time

Some of the people on this forum don't even know what the word 'research' means. They expect to be spoonfed everything. Perhaps if they did actually do some research and present facts to back their claims they might earn a little credibility.

regbrown

northerntwo1 wrote: »

I Never mentioned private rentals but you keep throwing out unsubstantiated claims as fact with viritol, it adds to your clearly informed knowledge on this subject. Surely if you are passionate about something you have facts as opposed to launching personal attacks on people. You cannot even be civil which shows the level of you stoop to.

Ha, brilliant. You supporting a policy which is going to affect the disabled and you have the audacity to suggest I am the one who isn't civil. No, screw that, it is one of the few things that peeves me royally.

Its an awful idealogical motivated headline policy and it targets the group of people who least deserve it. If its coming down to a debate about just how many of the god damn %66 are disabled enough for you, that should scream that your definition of civility has majorly broken.

Confuseddot

nannytone wrote: »

you can have all the money in the world, but if you are taken away from your friends, community and support, then it means nothing. Isolation is a terrible thing that many disabled people experience daily.
Is it something you would recommend?

You are missing my point, I am not sure deliberately or not.


Each individual has a basic need for shelter and that is what housing benefit in general is for. Ideally this shelter would meet you're wants as well as your basic need.


You as a disabled person get extra money to help meet your wants as you cannot at this stage earn the money needed to satisfy these wants. It is up to each individual how this money is spent, yes it can only be spent once and yes it may not be designed for housing but surely if community etc. means so much to individuals then this money should be spent on housing.

~Chameleon~

northerntwo1 wrote: »

What happens to disabled who are home owners. Who pays their costs. Do they exist or live. Who pays maintenance costs and buildings insurance. They clearly have less disposable income than a renter.

I am a home owner who lives with a severe illness. I pay my own costs. Whether I live or exist is defined by my illness not finances.

regbrown

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Some of the people on this forum don't even know what the word 'research' means. They expect to be spoonfed everything. Perhaps if they did actually do some research and present facts to back their claims they might earn a little credibility.

There aren't too many things that make me bothered enough to comment on this or other forums, but the way this bunch are treating the sick and disabled really angers me.

You would just hope for a base level of decency in society where we dont attack certain groups, I am sure the majority would put the disabled in that category.

A quick read of the fact check site will give you all the info you need about this policy, sadly for a small % pushing their warped agenda or party politics is just more important.

I kind of hope they are just conservative party members, it would not surprise me if the local associations tell their members to go out and actively promote their policies online

wildwestfan

nannytone wrote: »

you can have all the money in the world, but if you are taken away from your friends, community and support, then it means nothing. Isolation is a terrible thing that many disabled people experience daily.
Is it something you would recommend?

But it would be ok to make people aged 80+ move away from everything they are used to because your Granny was lucid at 104 and we can't allow them to live in a house too big for their needs because someone with an ingrowing toenail needs it? And yes people have claimed sickness benefits for ingrowing toenails so must make them disabled.

Do you honestly think that most people of 80+ will not have some form of disablement?