The Giving Up/ Cutting Down alcohol support thread - number 13

shaggydoo

maman wrote: »

I don't have a problem with government guidelines in principle either but I do think they need to be put in context. If government chose to they could introduce a sugar tax or give clearer guidelines to prevent obesity but they choose not to although they're very happy to take huge revenues on booze and fags. Where's the logic in that?

It does seem a bit nuts that the government is wasting money obsessing about whether men have 3 units or 4 units per day when obesity is now such a big problem in this country - talk about fiddling while Rome burns. Obesity is a bigger problem than alcohol. 10% of the NHS budget is going on managing type 2 diabetes and this can only get worse. £12 billion to be spent on gastric band operations alone. Obesity is costing the NHS just under £50 billion per year. And let's be honest it has the potential to destroy the NHS.

Interesting article here too

Life expectancy: Is the party over?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35070410

Anyhoo, lost one of my Xmas pounds

shaggydoo

satchmo1 wrote: »

There will always be exceptions to any norm, for example my 24-year-old niece was hospitalised with inflamed liver/pancreas last year and the consultant was convinced she had been binge drinking. She hadn't had a drink for over 4 years, due to having 3 babies under 4. She does have a very fatty diet, which was the biggest contributory factor, but didn't get much dietary advice.

It's nuts but if you drink any amount of alcohol (even a small amount) and get any problems with your liver it's put down to alcohol - yet a bad diet can give you liver disease (watch Morgan Spurlock's "Supersize Me" to witness what a bad diet does to the liver in a very short period of time). So liver disease due to alcohol is probably over recorded and liver disease caused my diet under reported.

shaggydoo

New_Me wrote: »

Can I join in please? Didn't get off to a great start yesterday with a few beers in the evening better tonight with ginger tea

1/30 please.

and Good Luck!

shaggydoo

December:

= 7 Days AF

= 14 days AF

= 21 days AF
= 28 days AF

= 31 days AF

= target achieved


Alcohol Free Days
Alex 19/21

AvoGeek /15
Barny1979 17/15
CountingPenniesClaire 19/25
DebJay 19/18
Doshwaster 17/18
Honey Bear 31/31
Maman 11/10
Piggles 23/17
Pricey 12/20
Satchmo 17/20

SandyPan 6/15
SmallHoldingSister 21/21

Alcohol Low Days
DizzyImp 21/19
Shaggy 20/16




Everyone Welcome! It's never too late to join....

Please highlight your AFDs in Red

Don't hesitate to let me know if I've made a mistake!

shaggydoo

January:

= 7 Days AF

= 14 days AF

= 21 days AF
= 28 days AF

= 31 days AF

= target achieved


Alcohol Free Days

Alex 2/28

AvoGeek

Barny1979 1/25

CathyBird 3/31

CountingPenniesClaire 1/31

DebJay 3/31

DizzyImp 3/31

Doshwaster /24

Gien 3/31

Honey Bear 1/31

HR_money /31

Jjef /18

Mackeroo /10

Maman /10

Mari 1/20

NewMe 1/30

Piggles 1/18

Pricey

Satchmo 3/31

SandyPan /29

SmallHoldingSister /31

Smiley_77 3/31

Yellowmonkey 3/31

Alcohol Low Days

Shaggy 2/23




Everyone Welcome! It's never too late to join....

Please highlight your AFDs in Red

Don't hesitate to let me know if I've made a mistake!

shaggydoo

Roll up, Roll up. A New Month, A New Challenge.

SET YOUR

28 days up for grabs!

Everyone Welcome!!!

Honey_Bear

Goodness Shaggy, you do talk a lot of well-informed sense! I think I have a particularly skewed version of the state of our collective national health (as opposed to the NHS) because I live on the Hoe close to the Barbican in Plymouth. Over bank holiday weekends the atmosphere is now so toxic on the Barbican I don't know anyone who will even walk down the street in the daytime any more, much less the evening - and that's all down to the booze. Horrible. And yes, walking around town, I'm afraid to say I have noticed that whereas you'd see the odd obese person 20 years ago, now it's pretty much half of the people. It's just so, so sad.

Welcome back, Smiley! :wave:

Well done on the ginger tea, New Me and Welcome! :wave: As Shaggy says, a new Monday is all you need to turn over a new leaf.

Piggles, I don't know what to say to make it easier or better, but if I could give you a bit squishy hug, I would. In the meantime, here's a virtual one. (((Hugs))) I hope it helps. I do want to point out, though, that every single day you go without a drink, or put the bottle back on the side instead of finishing it is a huge, huge victory - and you've had several of those over the past month, so you're doing amazing things. Hugely well done.

4/31 please, Shaggy.

Barny1979

2/25 AFDs for today

maman

Determined to get back on the wagon and have an AF day today. I've been sensible over Christmas but need to get back into good habits. I think Dave will be proud of me as I think part of the revised advice is to abstain for a few days each week;).


1 AFD please Shaggy.

gien

Interesting that article on life expectancy. We know that lots of exercise and a sensible diet which is high in veg and fruit contributes to longevity. Looking at people now, how many can really say that they have at least 5 F&V a day every day and eat less than 6 teaspoons of sugar daily and do at least 30 minutes of exercise that makes you short of breath three times a week? These are the minimum recommendations and I would bet that the majority of the UK population miss them.

If we just look at the early lifestyle of the people who are now in their 80s and 90s we can see how healthily they ate (even in times of scarcity) and how active they were. I reckon that, even with medical advances, increases in Longevity are going to slow and even stop.

That's cheerful, sorry!

I'm feeling the bells for the first time tonight since before NYE. Not sure why, but I am going to do my best to resist even if I have to go to bed early...