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Benefits Street
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springdreams wrote: »Now this I find very annoying...
The correct adverb is "worrying".0 -
Would you say the same about people who avoid paying tax - they are taking money destined for people who needed it?money destined for people who needed it, so much for her upstanding character....
I am struggling to reconcile your assertions the money was destined for people who needed it, with your assertions the Government wastes taxpayers money“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair0 -
makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »The next big benefits change is means testing the state pension, so expect any savings or private pensions to reduce your state provision by its value. You've been warned.
Naturally, you have a reliable source for this 'information,' though you have chosen not to quote it.
I understand.
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... and if you saw that they did have money from somewhere to waste on beer and fags, you'd rightly boot them out onto the street for taking advantage of your hospitality.
are you suggesting that if the Government sees a woman smoking or drinking they should 'boot' her and her children out on the street?“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair0 -
Naturally, you have a reliable source for this 'information,' though you have chosen not to quote it.
I understand.
Somebody might have suggested it, but I can't see it happening.
Old people get the best deal because most of them vote.
Why else do they pay less tax on the same income for example, then get freebies like free prescriptions and subsidized travel that younger people don't get even when they need it to get to work?
No Government dare upset the Grey Vote.“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair0 -
Regardless of what you do or don't do, if there is a benefits system for people not in work, some people will ensure they can't work so that they can claim benefits if at all possible.
We either don't have a benefit system or accept some level of abuse. Personally I would rather the government focus on educating kids to have aspirations beyond signing on, than starting a witch hunt against the poor for little gain.
David Cameron, Nick Clegg and their friends all went to similar schools. The people on Benefits Street all went to similar schools.
It is unrealistic to expect all of one group of people to succeed when they are set up to fail from the moment they are born.0 -
David Cameron, Nick Clegg and their friends all went to similar schools. The people on Benefits Street all went to similar schools.
The key is probably the parenting, rather than the schools. Primary schools maybe, but so much is set by the time people get to secondary school.
As the jesuit saying goes, give me a boy until he is seven, and I will give you the man.0 -
princeofpounds wrote: »The key is probably the parenting, rather than the schools. Primary schools maybe, but so much is set by the time people get to secondary school.
As the jesuit saying goes, give me a boy until he is seven, and I will give you the man.
Agreed. Aspiration and motivation should start at home. Even far away from the likes of Benefit Street - among a great many of the families that I know personally - those that rely on benefits seem to see their parental role as teaching and encouraging their own children to work the benefit system, rather than saying to them, "don't be like us - you can do better".
Maybe it's just human nature to follow a similar path to that of your parents, no matter who they are or what they do.
I don't know ............ but it's very sad.0 -
ruggedtoast wrote: »David Cameron, Nick Clegg and their friends all went to similar schools. The people on Benefits Street all went to similar schools.
It is unrealistic to expect all of one group of people to succeed when they are set up to fail from the moment they are born.
Very True.
It doesn't help to have a Hereditary Head of State.
Her Unelected Majesty The Queen stands as an example to us all - that however clever you are, and however hard you work, you won't get the top job unless you are born into it.“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair0 -
Glen_Clark wrote: »Very True.
It doesn't help to have a Hereditary Head of State.
Her Unelected Majesty The Queen stands as an example to us all - that however clever you are, and however hard you work, you won't get the top job unless you are born into it.
That's how we have so many Sirs in top jobs. A badge of honour for lining their own pockets. If you are working class, you have everything to lose and nothing to gain.0
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