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  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    In my opinion looking after young children (less than school age) is a full time job, you may disagree, I'm not sure. And I think that the government should be encouraging one parent to stay at home and nurture their children rather than banging on about getting women back to work.

    And that's absolutely fine, but don't then expect to have the same lifestyle than those who make the choice of both parents working full-time. That's the problem. Parents want it all. They want time with their children, time for themselves, time to socialise, so want to reduce their hours to fit around it, however, they want to be able to afford it all. They want to be able to have a nice house and a nice neighborhood, they want brand new furniture as soon as they move in, a car because even though they don't really need it, it is so much more convenient. They want to be able to offer after school activities to their children, lavish birthday and Christmas presents, birthday parties, and of course, at least one holiday a year. There is no appreciation that these are the things that only those working full-time should be able to afford.

    Hard working families are to me those where both parents work full-time. There is a significant difference between someone working 40 hours a week, that then needs to find the time to fit everything in their spare time, cleaning, washing, cooking etc... and those who get an extra 24 hours a week to do so.

    I don't believe that salary is directly link to the notion of 'hard working', however I strongly believe that the higher the salary, the more demanding the job in most cases because everything that comes with more responsibility means more mental and psychological demand on the person.
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    nannytone wrote: »
    and good untiversities have a certain number of places.
    usually open to public school kids before anyone else gets a look in.
    the real world dictates that you need far more worker bees than queen bees.
    not everyone can be a queen bee, but it doesnt mean they work less hard.
    in fact, the people in the top positions make money from the sweat of the workers.
    so its mostly quite the opposiye.
    the lower paid memberts of society do the majority of the work.

    and not everyone is academic. does that mean they are wqorth less?

    I'm afraid that's absolute rubbish. The best universities bend over backwards to take students from the state sector, offering them places with lower grades than those who are privately educated and additional funding.
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 13,004 Forumite
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    you need to look at the figures for the oxbridge universities and see what percentage of their students attended state schoo;s.
    Does that mean public school leavers arent as bright as those in the private sector\/
    of course not. It is opportunity and availability.
    Rgw atatem has always run along the olld boys network and barring a revolution, always will
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    nannytone wrote: »

    Rgw atatem has always run along the olld boys network and barring a revolution, always will

    It will after a revolution as well - except it will be a different lot of "old boys" who control things.
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    edited 29 December 2013 at 11:20AM
    nannytone wrote: »
    you need to look at the figures for the oxbridge universities and see what percentage of their students attended state schoo;s.
    Does that mean public school leavers arent as bright as those in the private sector\/
    of course not. It is opportunity and availability.
    Rgw atatem has always run along the olld boys network and barring a revolution, always will

    Public schools are, of course, in the private sector.

    Obviously one would expect students from independent schools to be better educated and better qualified than those from state schools, which explains the numbers, but to suggest that Oxbridge holds back places for them is just silly and ignorant of all the changes and schemes that are available to those from state schools.

    As I said, all things being equal, a student from the state sector would be offered a place ahead of someone educated privately.
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    Mojisola wrote: »
    It will after a revolution as well - except it will be a different lot of "old boys" who control things.

    You've been reading Animal Farm again!;):)
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 13,004 Forumite
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    MY DAUFGTER WENT TO SCHOOL WITH AN EXTREMELY BRIGHT GIRL WHO HAD 12 gcse#S AT a* AND 5 a LEVELS AT a*.
    SHE APPLIES TO oVFORD AND cAMBRIDGE BUT WAS NOT ACCEPTED FOR EITHER.
    MAYBE HER ACCENT DIDNT FIT?
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    nannytone wrote: »
    MY DAUFGTER WENT TO SCHOOL WITH AN EXTREMELY BRIGHT GIRL WHO HAD 12 gcse#S AT a* AND 5 a LEVELS AT a*.
    SHE APPLIES TO oVFORD AND cAMBRIDGE BUT WAS NOT ACCEPTED FOR EITHER.
    MAYBE HER ACCENT DIDNT FIT?

    When your daughter was at school there was no such thing as A* at A level, neither is it possible to apply to both Oxford and Cambridge on the same application.

    Nearly all Oxbridge candidates have A grades at A level so obviously some won't get places, even if the rest of your information is accurate....
  • Dunroamin wrote: »
    When your daughter was at school there was no such thing as A* at A level, neither is it possible to apply to both Oxford and Cambridge on the same application.

    Nearly all Oxbridge candidates have A grades at A level so obviously some won't get places, even if the rest of your information is accurate....

    :T:T

    Don't let your fancy facts and logic get in the way of a good old fashioned rant! You're obviously 100% right :)
    Thinking critically since 1996....
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