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  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    Dog dog has moved into a patch of sun on the floor (grey hounds ARE part cat)

    Avatar dog was part greyhound and LOVED basking in the sun. In the main house where we lived for most of the time that we had him, he had a favourite place where the sun came through the window onto the triangular steps where the staircase went round a corner, and he was always to be found there whenever the sun was in the right part of the sky to hit that spot.
    I've never understood how it can. How teachers and schools can understandthe different needs. That's why there used to be special schools, so all needs could be met, with staff who are fully trained.
    I bet most teachers either don't know the nuances, or don't actually understand them. They're teachers who chose to teach; they didn't choose to teach special needs.

    It's a bit like hiring a decorator who paints.... and then giving him some rolls of paper and saying "I want a feature wall" in the price. Different skills.... so you'd do your best, based on what you might know, or have read, but you still end up with one strip upside down.

    I see what you're saying, PN. However, the two needs we've been discussing are (a) he's entitled to x number of hours a week of TA support, and (b) any alterations to the end of the school day must be notified to Sue, because he's not to be left unsupervised. How difficult is it to understand those two? The first is a management issue, and there's no excuse for the school not doing it. As for the second, well, the teacher might not have known what to do herself, but if the statement says he's not to be left unsupervised, she shouldn't have just chucked him out in the rain alone, she should have taken him to some kind of pastoral and/or admin person or office or reception, and handed him over for them to look after until Sue arrived or they made appropriate arrangements.

    Inclusion of students with moderate special needs is part of the job these days. Teachers are not expected to know all the nuances of all the possible needs they might ever come across, but the Senco *is* expected to make the effort to get to know these things and to provide appropriate training if necessary. That's what they're paid for. 40 years ago, schools didn't have Sencos.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    FURY!!!!!


    Have a good fire going int the wood burner, getting house warm and BANG, so I think my firebrick/s have gone. :(.
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    I think the thing is that even children with out special needs often fail to get their 'less' special but still important to them individual needs met. The ones who are lost on big classes. The introverts who struggle. Or the ones who cope, but could excel.

    Every child has some basic needs and some individual needs I'd say, and I know I'd be a terrible teacher. When I see how , Lydia, for exams, remembers little things about people ,and what might be a nice thing for them and how even in her exhaustion she is steadfast and reliable and consistent I realise how blessed the children she teaches are. Her class room is probably a place that supports different learning styles. I see similar traits in quite a few posters here actually, and am inspired by them but know i couldn't be like that (and don't mind, i have different things ) just Lydia is a good example because its actually her job!

    Awww. What lovely things you say, lir. :):o

    Partly because of the kind of schools I've spent my career in, I haven't had much to do with students with emotional or behavioural difficulties, and my only experience of teaching an ASD student was a very able Y13 boy in the parallel set to mine, who was there sometimes when the other teacher and I did some lecture-style team teaching once a week or so for a little while.

    However, I do get lots of dyslexics, dyspraxics, dyscalculics, and kids with poor working memory, poor auditory processing, poor vision (including one very impaired partially sighted girl), a few hearing impaired (although nobody bad enough to need a signer), and of course dozens and dozens who aren't native English speakers.

    Mostly, the way you cater for them is good practice for all students - put spellings of new technical terms on the board, make sure people have finished before you go on to the next thing, be patient and avoid shaming people who ask questions (however dim) when they don't understand, that kind of thing. We also use dyslexic-friendly fonts for all new worksheets, for example.

    Beyond that, we do a bit of special catering for them - keep an eye on this student to make sure she sits near enough to the board to see it properly, face towards the hearing impaired one when speaking, that kind of thing - but mostly they are supposed to manage their own needs. The learning support staff give them extra help with whatever it is, and provide them with strategies and technology, and then we just have to be flexible enough to let them do things their way - type things on a laptop instead of writing with a pen, print themselves a large print copy of the worksheet from the school network, or whatever. The idea is that nobody knows their needs better than they do, and that once they leave school it'll be down to them to make use of the technology available to manage whatever it is that they need to do.

    PS I happy with myself even though I couldn't do your job, so we're even!
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • Doozergirl
    Doozergirl Posts: 34,078 Forumite
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    edited 21 February 2014 at 4:12PM
    Thanks, that's very sweet of you.

    No its not that, but I really, deeply appreciate you would look for it for me. :). You again show your great kindness PN. :A. Far from a faux pas, a very kind and generous action.

    No, its just when dog dog last had her season:), I have a window in which to spay her. (Ideally its between three and four months.....I always wonder what the rescues who pick and spay do.... scan , just risk it?)


    Dog dog isn't a very hormonal girl, but I'll be glad to get this over and done with, no more seasons. From her . Its much better I think for them.

    I wonder if you'd find the date by running a search on your posts here? You probably could if you got the right keywords!

    I could breathe last night. Still didn't sleep for long periods, but that's okay as I can sleep in the day. I look like Kenny from South Park with the hood of my dressing gown up and my neck wrapped up, keeping it all warm.
    Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
  • mystic_trev
    mystic_trev Posts: 5,434 Forumite
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    I'm probably being more than a little stupid, :o but can anyone clarify how this will work, as although I'm not affected, someone I've provided a bridging loan for,will.

    A second property was bought begging of December 2012, so 16 months will be running as at 5th April 2014. Do they have to sell the Property by June this year, or do they get the benefit of another 18 months running from 5th April?

    Thank you NP

    Just to let you know (if anyones got the slightest interest ;)) having spoken to an Accountant, a Tax liability I thought could amount to the thick end of £80k will in fact be no more than £2k, even if I go over the 18 month period. I can't explain it, as it's Accountants 'speak' but at least I'm now feeling a lot happier!
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    After a good look in the woodburner I have a red face and a little burn on my hand hand but intact fire brick so far and I can see. Wonder what on earth the noise was??????


    Site meeting to day was cancelled. At least the downstairs house work is pretty much done within my limitations. :)
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    edited 21 February 2014 at 6:38PM
    vivatifosi wrote: »

    I definitely need to meet Isaac. I have seen a Komodo Dragon and also find them fascinating. Can you please ask you son of, as a lizard, it is in any way related to a crocodile? They do look similar, albeit without the croc skin.

    Just got home and asked him, and he says not very closely related, their last common ancestor is about 90 million years ago (he reckons).

    Not sure if he's right, but that's not exactly a first cousin, if he is.

    Edited to add - he's decided he wants to be Julius Caesar for World Book Day. That means that this year we have some warning (last year, he was Harold Godwinson in a hell of a hurry) but I'm not quite sure how to come up with Julius Caesar costume, even with warning!
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    Just got home and asked him, and he says not very closely related, their last common ancestor is about 90 million years ago (he reckons).

    Not sure if he's right, but that's not exactly a first cousin, if he is.

    Well thank you to both of you for informing me. I guess it is like the stripy African animal that looks a bit like a zebra but whose closest relative is a giraffe. Okapi I think. Thanks to Isaac for helping me out there.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    edited 21 February 2014 at 6:48PM
    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Well thank you to both of you for informing me. I guess it is like the stripy African animal that looks a bit like a zebra but whose closest relative is a giraffe. Okapi I think. Thanks to Isaac for helping me out there.

    Horse and rhino are close. That always tickles me. Non horse people don't get it. People who ride large breed mountain and moorlands or draughts with a temper aren't that surprised when you tell them. :rotfl:


    (Other closest cousins make sense when you look at horses ancestors like dawn horse......the tapir)
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    Julius Caesar... red bed sheet fastened at the neck by brooch, a curtain tie back for a belt, possibly some garden centre fake greenery for head gear?
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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