Please sign the petition - starved puppies to death

Person_one

likelyfran wrote: »

I find your post very contradictory and unfathomable.
It's 'ok' to kill animals, sometimes, you say but you also acknowledge that animals are capable of feeling and of suffering?
Yes, they are capable of feeling and suffering - just like 'us' - so why should one be killed for the other - for ANY reason?

Animals aren't aware of or afraid of death in the same way we are, they don't anticipate it.

Being humanely killed in a way that doesn't cause anxiety or pain or stress is far from the worst thing that can happen to an animal.

gettingready

Person_one wrote: »

Animals aren't aware of or afraid of death in the same way we are, they don't anticipate it.

Really?

http://living-vegan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/bull-who-cried.html

Person_one wrote: »

Being humanely killed in a way that doesn't cause anxiety or pain or stress is far from the worst thing that can happen to an animal.

Killing is killing. There is no such thing as stress free killing of an animal.

What does "humanely" mean? That HUMANS think it is ok?

JustD

where the petition?

Person_one

gettingready wrote: »

Really?

http://living-vegan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/bull-who-cried.html





Killing is killing. There is no such thing as stress free killing of an animal.

What does "humanely" mean? That HUMANS think it is ok?

No, that's not what it means. You could google it or look in a dictionary if you actually want to know.

I'm not getting into another argument with you today. One is enough.

senileturtle

JustD wrote: »

where the petition?

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/46619

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/david-cameron-give-the-hessin-family-a-minimum-of-4-years-jail-sentence

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For those who would like to see the puppies as were:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2q3u3d3&s=5#.Uqks5fRdWSo - this is the poor darlings before the heartless so-n-so's did their deed.

senileturtle

gettingready wrote: »

Really?

http://living-vegan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/bull-who-cried.html





Killing is killing. There is no such thing as stress free killing of an animal.

What does "humanely" mean? That HUMANS think it is ok?

Their argument falls down when one contemplates those humans with brain damage or learning disabilities than inhibit the ability to comprehend life and death. If a human can't supposedly understand they're about to die we can use the opponents argument to propose it's ok to use said human for our own purpose, be it killing or otherwise.

So I wouldn't waste your time if I were you. Those who see animals as of use to us are often pig-headed in their views and will not change even if the evidence is shoved in their face. Their 'might is right' way is too strongly engrained in them it seems, as is their arrogance.

I partly blame society for entrenching the view from birth.

seven-day-weekend

Person_one wrote: »

Animals aren't aware of or afraid of death in the same way we are, they don't anticipate it.

Being humanely killed in a way that doesn't cause anxiety or pain or stress is far from the worst thing that can happen to an animal.

Agreed. The dogs under discussion would have been better off being put down than being starved to death.

I think the people concerned should have had a short stay in prison and banned from keeping any animal again for ever.

(I have not opened the link, don't want nightmares).