Good policing or just invasive?

Guest101

Oh and s5, can be confusing all this legislation. It is only an offence if the behaviour continues after warned not to do so by a constable

Guest101

goonarmy wrote: »

Which part is wrong then?

What bit of what I have said us wrong then ?

S5 is a law which really need to go before Europe, words or action likely to cause harassment alarm and distress...

Someone wearing a hoody might cause that.. It's ambiguous

Captain_Flack.

Guest101 wrote: »

Most phones have video capability, if not then a cheap camera in your car is a good idea for insurance purposes anyway.

The police must identify themselves, uniform or not, you are entitled to know the name and station of any officer you have dealings with.

Opening the door can be construed as a search, for which they would require reasonable suspicion

Links please.

Captain_Flack.

Guest101 wrote: »

Oh and s5, can be confusing all this legislation. It is only an offence if the behaviour continues after warned not to do so by a constable

No its not, that's for the power of arrest. The offence is complete when you swear.

goonarmy

Guest101 wrote: »

Most phones have video capability, if not then a cheap camera in your car is a good idea for insurance purposes anyway.

The police must identify themselves, uniform or not, you are entitled to know the name and station of any officer you have dealings with.

Opening the door can be construed as a search, for which they would require reasonable suspicion

Thats not good advice. If your keys are in the ignition and your using your phone surely you are fair game?

Guest101

goonarmy wrote: »

Thats not good advice. If your keys are in the ignition and your using your phone surely you are fair game?

I did originally say you should turn your engine off and remove ur keys

Edit : Some cars have keyless start too

Guest101

Captain_Flack. wrote: »

Links please.

Stop and search: officer identifying themselves : https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-to-stop-and-search-your-rights

Will have to find the section regarding the opening if car door

Guest101

Captain_Flack. wrote: »

No its not, that's for the power of arrest. The offence is complete when you swear.

Ok fair enough, it's still a very ambiguous law. Any behaviour can cause distress

benson1980

Guest101 wrote: »

Feel free to link this advice, and I'll link a hundred posts providing accurate information by me. Since I've not posted for months, I think ur memory is playing tricks on you.

Feel free to correct my post, I take no responsibility for people failing to maintain their vehicles

Have you been away for months brushing up on your legal skills? If so I'd suggest a bit more brushing up is required. In fairness to you, your 'advice' isn't quite as bad as I've seen on previous occasions (the offence of criminal trespass anyone?) but still incorrect, which begs the question why preach like you know it all when you don't.

Section 5 has nothing to do with threat of immediate violence, and swearing can be illegal.

Officers in uniform don't have to show their warrant card.

The rest of what you say is just advising being as difficult as possible if stopped- personal preference I guess.

Guest101

benson1980 wrote: »

Have you been away for months brushing up on your legal skills? If so I'd suggest a bit more brushing up is required. In fairness to you, your 'advice' isn't quite as bad as I've seen on previous occasions (the offence of criminal trespass anyone?) but still incorrect, which begs the question why preach like you know it all when you don't.

Section 5 has nothing to do with threat of immediate violence, and swearing can be illegal.

Officers in uniform don't have to show their warrant card.

The rest of what you say is just advising being as difficult as possible if stopped- personal preference I guess.

I think u mean aggravated trespass? Which is an offence. Look it up.

I meant s4, I admitted my mistake. I'm happy to admit that, these things can happen. As I have also said the law is a joke, anything can cause alarm or distress.

As for warrant cards, it says they should produce this on request http://www.gloucestershire.police.uk/foi/Information%20Classes/Policies/item14360.pdf


I don't need to update my knowledge thanks for your concern, u can choose to do as you wish. I'm just exercising my rights to protect my freedom. If I have broken no law I have nothing to fear by 'being difficult'.